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Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" l

Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. Same with 13" laptops, I'm willing to sacrifice on screen real estate for saving myself from the back pain of carrying a 15" or larger laptop. Some of this is insanely impressive. I wonder how big the OS ROM (or whatever) is with all these models. For context, even if the entire OS is about 15GB, in order to get some of these features locally just for an LLM on its own, its about 60GB or more, for something ChatGPT esque. Which requires me to spend thousands on a GPU. Apologies for the many thoughts, I'm quite excited by all these advancements. I always say I want AI to work offline and people tell me I'm moving the goalpost, but it is truly the only way it will become mainstream.

onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago
> Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet Aren't phones getting close to 7" now? The iPhone pro is 6.2", right?
- jsheard 3y ago
  Yeah, big phones have become the new small tablet. https://phonesized.com/compare/#2299,156 https://phonesized.com/compare/#2299,156 Take away the bezels on the tablet and there's not a lot of difference.
- giancarlostoro 3y ago
  I'm not a huge fan of it, but yeah they are. I actually prefer my phones to be somewhat smaller.
- jwells89 3y ago
  Biggest difference is aspect ratio. Phones are taller and less pleasant to use in landscape, tablets are more square and better to use in landscape. You could technically make a more square phone but it wouldn’t be fun to hold in common positions, like up to your ear for a call.
ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago
I've been using the iPad Mini for years. I'd love to see them add something to that form factor. I do see a lot of iPad Minis out there, but usually, as part of dedicated systems (like PoS, and restaurant systems). On the other hand, I have heard rumblings that Apple may release an even bigger phone, which I think might be overkill (but what do I know. I see a lot of those monster Samsung beasts, out there). Not sure that is for me. I still use an iPhone 13 Mini. I suspect that my next Mac will be a Studio. I guess it will be an M4 Studio.
- wiredfool 3y ago
  I loved my ipad mini. It's super long in the tooth now, and I was hoping to replace it today. oh well...
  - giancarlostoro 3y ago
    I wish they would stop doing this weird release cycle where some of their tablets don't get the updated chips. It's really frustrating. Makes me hesitant to buy a tablet if I feel like it could get an upgrade a week later or whatever.
    - JohnBooty 3y ago
      It certainly seems less than ideal for pro/prosumer buyers who care about the chips inside. I would guess that Apple doesn't love it either; one suspects that the weird release cycle is at least partially related to availability of chips and other components.
    - wiredfool 3y ago
      I probably would have pulled the trigger on a price drop, but at 600+eur for an old version, I'm just not as into that, as I really expect it to be lasting many years.
  - Menu_Overview 3y ago
    I was ready to buy one today, too. Disappointing. I miss my old iPad mini 4. I guess I could try the 11" iPad, but I think I'd prefer it to be smaller.
r0fl 3y ago
The next iPhone pro max will be 6.9 inches That fits all your wants
sulam 3y ago
If your back is hurting from the ~1lb extra going from 13" to 15", I would recommend some body weight exercises. Your back will thank you, and you'll find getting older to be much less painful. Regarding a small iPad, isn't that the iPad mini? 8" vs 7" is pretty close to what you're asking for.
- teaearlgraycold 3y ago
  I highly recommend doing pull-ups for your posture and health. It was shocking to me how much the state of my spine improved after doing pull-ups as a daily exercise.
  - brcmthrowaway 3y ago
    set and rep protocol?
    - teaearlgraycold 3y ago
      I just have a bar in my apartment in a doorway. Sometimes when I walk by I do 3 - 8 pull ups, then go on my way. Do that a few times a day and you’re doing pretty good. Sometimes I’ll do a few L pull ups as well. If I’m doing pull ups in the gym I’ll do 3 sets of 7. That’s the most I can do at the moment.
  - Der_Einzige 3y ago
    The average HN based-boy apple user has almost negative arm strength. You're asking them to start with pull ups? They need to be able to do a real push-up first!
alexpc201 3y ago
You can’t have all that power in a 7” tablet because the battery will last half hour.
- JohnBooty 3y ago
  Well, maybe. The screen (and specifically the backlight) is a big drain. Smaller screen = less drain.
Foobar8568 3y ago
I am not a large person by any means, yet I have no problem to carry a MBP 16...But then I have a backpack and not a messenger like bag, which I would agree, would be a pain to carry.
_akhe 3y ago
> I always say I want AI to work offline I'm with you, I'm most excited about this too. Currently building an AI creative studio (make stories, art, music, videos, etc.) that runs locally/offline (https://github.com/bennyschmidt/ragdoll-studio https://github.com/bennyschmidt/ragdoll-studio). There is a lot of focus on cloud with LLMs but I can't see how the cost will make much sense for involved creative apps like video creation, etc. Present day users might not have high-end machines, but I think they all will pretty soon - this will make them buy them the way MMORPGs made everyone buy more RAM. Especially the artists and creators. Remember, Photoshop was once pretty difficult to run, you needed a great machine. I can imagine offline music/movies apps, offline search engines, back office software, etc.
ant6n 3y ago
I’ve got an iPad mini. The main issue is the screen scratches. The other main issue is the screen is like a mirror, so it can’t be used everywhere to watch videos (which is the main thing the iPad is useful for). The third main issue is that videos nowadays are way too dark and you can’t adjust brightness/gamma on the iPad to compensate. (Notice a theme?)
- dmitrygr 3y ago
  search amazon for matte glass screen protectors. thank me later
  - ant6n 3y ago
    How does one differentiate between cheap and good products? How do I know they actually work? How does one know they don‘t destroy the coating on apple devices? Apple doesn‘t even sell an official matte screen protector last I checked.
    - dmitrygr 3y ago
      I buy the cheapest. Have for years. no issues ever
notatoad 3y ago
a 7" tablet was a really cool form factor back in the day when phones were 4". but when 6.7" screens on phones are common, what really is the point of a 7" tablet?
Aurornis 3y ago
> Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. iPhone Pro Max screen size is 6.7" and the the upcoming iPhone 16 Pro Max is rumored to be 6.9" with 12GB of RAM. That's your 7" tablet right there. The thing is - You're an extreme edge case of an edge case. Furthermore, I'm guessing if Apple did roll out a 7" tablet, you'd find some other thing where it isn't exactly 100% perfectly meeting your desired specifications. For example, Apple is about to release a high powered 6.9" tablet-like device (the iPhone 16 Pro Max) but I'm guessing there's another reason why it doesn't fit your needs. Which is why companies like Apple ignore these niche use cases and focus on mainstream demands. The niche demands always gain a lot of internet chatter, but when the products come out they sell very poorly.

onlyrealcuzzo 3y ago

> Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet Aren't phones getting close to 7" now? The iPhone pro is 6.2", right?

jsheard 3y ago
Yeah, big phones have become the new small tablet. https://phonesized.com/compare/#2299,156 https://phonesized.com/compare/#2299,156 Take away the bezels on the tablet and there's not a lot of difference.
giancarlostoro 3y ago
I'm not a huge fan of it, but yeah they are. I actually prefer my phones to be somewhat smaller.
jwells89 3y ago
Biggest difference is aspect ratio. Phones are taller and less pleasant to use in landscape, tablets are more square and better to use in landscape. You could technically make a more square phone but it wouldn’t be fun to hold in common positions, like up to your ear for a call.

ChrisMarshallNY 3y ago

I've been using the iPad Mini for years. I'd love to see them add something to that form factor. I do see a lot of iPad Minis out there, but usually, as part of dedicated systems (like PoS, and restaurant systems). On the other hand, I have heard rumblings that Apple may release an even bigger phone, which I think might be overkill (but what do I know. I see a lot of those monster Samsung beasts, out there). Not sure that is for me. I still use an iPhone 13 Mini. I suspect that my next Mac will be a Studio. I guess it will be an M4 Studio.

wiredfool 3y ago
I loved my ipad mini. It's super long in the tooth now, and I was hoping to replace it today. oh well...
- giancarlostoro 3y ago
  I wish they would stop doing this weird release cycle where some of their tablets don't get the updated chips. It's really frustrating. Makes me hesitant to buy a tablet if I feel like it could get an upgrade a week later or whatever.
  - JohnBooty 3y ago
    It certainly seems less than ideal for pro/prosumer buyers who care about the chips inside. I would guess that Apple doesn't love it either; one suspects that the weird release cycle is at least partially related to availability of chips and other components.
  - wiredfool 3y ago
    I probably would have pulled the trigger on a price drop, but at 600+eur for an old version, I'm just not as into that, as I really expect it to be lasting many years.
- Menu_Overview 3y ago
  I was ready to buy one today, too. Disappointing. I miss my old iPad mini 4. I guess I could try the 11" iPad, but I think I'd prefer it to be smaller.

r0fl 3y ago

The next iPhone pro max will be 6.9 inches That fits all your wants

sulam 3y ago

If your back is hurting from the ~1lb extra going from 13" to 15", I would recommend some body weight exercises. Your back will thank you, and you'll find getting older to be much less painful. Regarding a small iPad, isn't that the iPad mini? 8" vs 7" is pretty close to what you're asking for.

teaearlgraycold 3y ago
I highly recommend doing pull-ups for your posture and health. It was shocking to me how much the state of my spine improved after doing pull-ups as a daily exercise.
- brcmthrowaway 3y ago
  set and rep protocol?
  - teaearlgraycold 3y ago
    I just have a bar in my apartment in a doorway. Sometimes when I walk by I do 3 - 8 pull ups, then go on my way. Do that a few times a day and you’re doing pretty good. Sometimes I’ll do a few L pull ups as well. If I’m doing pull ups in the gym I’ll do 3 sets of 7. That’s the most I can do at the moment.
- Der_Einzige 3y ago
  The average HN based-boy apple user has almost negative arm strength. You're asking them to start with pull ups? They need to be able to do a real push-up first!

alexpc201 3y ago

You can’t have all that power in a 7” tablet because the battery will last half hour.

JohnBooty 3y ago
Well, maybe. The screen (and specifically the backlight) is a big drain. Smaller screen = less drain.

Foobar8568 3y ago

I am not a large person by any means, yet I have no problem to carry a MBP 16...But then I have a backpack and not a messenger like bag, which I would agree, would be a pain to carry.

_akhe 3y ago

> I always say I want AI to work offline I'm with you, I'm most excited about this too. Currently building an AI creative studio (make stories, art, music, videos, etc.) that runs locally/offline (https://github.com/bennyschmidt/ragdoll-studio https://github.com/bennyschmidt/ragdoll-studio). There is a lot of focus on cloud with LLMs but I can't see how the cost will make much sense for involved creative apps like video creation, etc. Present day users might not have high-end machines, but I think they all will pretty soon - this will make them buy them the way MMORPGs made everyone buy more RAM. Especially the artists and creators. Remember, Photoshop was once pretty difficult to run, you needed a great machine. I can imagine offline music/movies apps, offline search engines, back office software, etc.

ant6n 3y ago

I’ve got an iPad mini. The main issue is the screen scratches. The other main issue is the screen is like a mirror, so it can’t be used everywhere to watch videos (which is the main thing the iPad is useful for). The third main issue is that videos nowadays are way too dark and you can’t adjust brightness/gamma on the iPad to compensate. (Notice a theme?)

dmitrygr 3y ago
search amazon for matte glass screen protectors. thank me later
- ant6n 3y ago
  How does one differentiate between cheap and good products? How do I know they actually work? How does one know they don‘t destroy the coating on apple devices? Apple doesn‘t even sell an official matte screen protector last I checked.
  - dmitrygr 3y ago
    I buy the cheapest. Have for years. no issues ever

notatoad 3y ago

a 7" tablet was a really cool form factor back in the day when phones were 4". but when 6.7" screens on phones are common, what really is the point of a 7" tablet?

Aurornis 3y ago

> Call me crazy, but I want all that power in a 7" tablet. I like 7" tablets most because they feel less clunky to carry around and take with you. iPhone Pro Max screen size is 6.7" and the the upcoming iPhone 16 Pro Max is rumored to be 6.9" with 12GB of RAM. That's your 7" tablet right there. The thing is - You're an extreme edge case of an edge case. Furthermore, I'm guessing if Apple did roll out a 7" tablet, you'd find some other thing where it isn't exactly 100% perfectly meeting your desired specifications. For example, Apple is about to release a high powered 6.9" tablet-like device (the iPhone 16 Pro Max) but I'm guessing there's another reason why it doesn't fit your needs. Which is why companies like Apple ignore these niche use cases and focus on mainstream demands. The niche demands always gain a lot of internet chatter, but when the products come out they sell very poorly.