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if only macOS would run on iPad..

by ramboldio 2y ago

user90131313 2y ago
All that power so ipad stays limited like a toy.
Eun 2y ago
then a lot of people would buy it, including me :-)
vbezhenar 2y ago
Please no. I don't want no touch support in macOS.
- jwells89 2y ago
  It might work if running in Mac mode required a reboot (no on the fly switching between iOS and macOS) and a connected KB+mouse, with the touch part of the screen (aside from Pencil usage) turning inert in Mac mode. Otherwise yes, desktop operating systems are a terrible experience on touch devices.
  - vbezhenar 2y ago
    > It might work if running in Mac mode required a reboot (no on the fly switching between iOS and macOS) and a connected KB+mouse, with the touch part of the screen (aside from Pencil usage) turning inert in Mac mode. Sounds like strictly worse version of Macbook. Might be useful for occasional work, but I expect people who would use this mode continuously just to switch to Macbook.
    - jwells89 2y ago
      The biggest market would be for travelers who essentially want a work/leisure toggle. It’s not too uncommon for people to carry both an iPad and MacBook for example, but a 12.9” iPad that could reboot into macOS to get some work done and then drop back to iPadOS for watching movies or sketching could replace both without too much sacrifice. There’s tradeoffs, but nothing worse than what you see on PC 2-in-1’s, plus no questionable hinges to fail.
    - ginko 2y ago
      MacBooks even the air are too large and heavy imo. A 10-11 inch tablet running a real os would be ideal for travel imo.
  - gorbypark 2y ago
    This is what I want, but with an iPhone (with an iPad would be cool, too). Sell me some insanely expensive dock with a USB-C display port output for a monitor (and a few more for peripherals) and when the phone is plugged in, it becomes macOS.
- Nevermark 2y ago
  Because it would be so great you couldn’t help using it? /h What would be the downside to other’s using it? I get frustrated that Mac doesn’t respond to look & pinch!
  - vbezhenar 2y ago
    Because I saw how this transformed Windows and GNOME. Applications will be reworked with touch support and become worse for me.
- jonhohle 2y ago
  Why would you need it? Modern iPads have thunderbolt ports (minimally USB-C) and already allow keyboards, network adapters, etc. to be connected. It would be like an iMac without the stand and an option to put it in a keyboard enclosure. Sounds awesome.
- pquki4 2y ago
  That's your argument of not allowing others to use MacOS on an iPad?
tcfunk 2y ago
I'd settle for some version of xcode, or some other way of not requiring a macOS machine to ship iOS apps.
- JimDabell 2y ago
  Swift Playgrounds, which runs on the iPad, can already be used to build an app and deploy it to the App Store without a Mac.
  - alexpc201 2y ago
    You can’t make a decent iOS app with Swift Playgrounds, its just a toy for kids to learn to code.
    - interpol_p 2y ago
      You're probably correct about it being hard to make a decent iOS app in Swift Playgrounds, but it's definitely not a toy I use it for work several times per week. I often want to test out some Swift API, or build something in SwiftUI, and for some reason it's way faster to tap it out on my iPad in Swift Playgrounds than to create a new project or playground in Xcode on my Mac — even when I'm sitting directly in front of my Mac The iPad just doesn't have the clutter of windows and communication open like my mac does that makes it hard to focus on resolving one particular idea I have so many playground files on my iPad, a quick glance at my project list: interactive gesture-driven animations, testing out time and date logic, rendering perceptual gradients, checking baseline alignment in SF Symbols, messing with NSFilePresenter, mocking out a UI design, animated text transitions, etc
- hot_gril 2y ago
  It needs a regular web browser too.
havaloc 2y ago
Maybe this June there'll be an announcement, but like Lucy with the football, I'm not expecting it. I would instabuy if this was the case, especially with a cellular iPad.
swozey 2y ago
Yeah, I bought one of them a few years ago planning to use it for a ton of things. Turns out I only use it on flights to watch movies because I loathe the os.
School-Cotton 2y ago
They make a version of iPad that runs macOS, it is called a MacBook Pro.
- zuminator 2y ago
  MacBook Pros have touchscreens and Apple Pencil compatibility now?
  - School-Cotton 2y ago
    Fair enough, I was being a bit flippant. It’d be nice if that existed, but I suspect Apple doesn’t want it to for market segmentation reasons.
    - kstrauser 2y ago
      I just went to store.apple.com and specced out a 13" iPad Pro with 2TB of storage, nano-texture glass, and a cell modem for $2,599. MacBook Pros start at $1,599. There's an enormous overlap in the price ranges of the mortal-person models of those products. It's not like the iPad Pro is the cheap alternative to a MBP. I mean, I couldn't even spec out a MacBook Air to cost as much.
ranyefet 2y ago
Just give us support for virtualization and we could install Linux on it and use it for development.
- LeoPanthera 2y ago
  UTM can be built for iOS.

if only macOS would run on iPad..

user90131313 2y ago

All that power so ipad stays limited like a toy.

Eun 2y ago

then a lot of people would buy it, including me :-)

vbezhenar 2y ago

Please no. I don't want no touch support in macOS.

jwells89 2y ago
It might work if running in Mac mode required a reboot (no on the fly switching between iOS and macOS) and a connected KB+mouse, with the touch part of the screen (aside from Pencil usage) turning inert in Mac mode. Otherwise yes, desktop operating systems are a terrible experience on touch devices.
- vbezhenar 2y ago
  > It might work if running in Mac mode required a reboot (no on the fly switching between iOS and macOS) and a connected KB+mouse, with the touch part of the screen (aside from Pencil usage) turning inert in Mac mode. Sounds like strictly worse version of Macbook. Might be useful for occasional work, but I expect people who would use this mode continuously just to switch to Macbook.
  - jwells89 2y ago
    The biggest market would be for travelers who essentially want a work/leisure toggle. It’s not too uncommon for people to carry both an iPad and MacBook for example, but a 12.9” iPad that could reboot into macOS to get some work done and then drop back to iPadOS for watching movies or sketching could replace both without too much sacrifice. There’s tradeoffs, but nothing worse than what you see on PC 2-in-1’s, plus no questionable hinges to fail.
  - ginko 2y ago
    MacBooks even the air are too large and heavy imo. A 10-11 inch tablet running a real os would be ideal for travel imo.
- gorbypark 2y ago
  This is what I want, but with an iPhone (with an iPad would be cool, too). Sell me some insanely expensive dock with a USB-C display port output for a monitor (and a few more for peripherals) and when the phone is plugged in, it becomes macOS.
Nevermark 2y ago
Because it would be so great you couldn’t help using it? /h What would be the downside to other’s using it? I get frustrated that Mac doesn’t respond to look & pinch!
- vbezhenar 2y ago
  Because I saw how this transformed Windows and GNOME. Applications will be reworked with touch support and become worse for me.
jonhohle 2y ago
Why would you need it? Modern iPads have thunderbolt ports (minimally USB-C) and already allow keyboards, network adapters, etc. to be connected. It would be like an iMac without the stand and an option to put it in a keyboard enclosure. Sounds awesome.
pquki4 2y ago
That's your argument of not allowing others to use MacOS on an iPad?

tcfunk 2y ago

I'd settle for some version of xcode, or some other way of not requiring a macOS machine to ship iOS apps.

JimDabell 2y ago
Swift Playgrounds, which runs on the iPad, can already be used to build an app and deploy it to the App Store without a Mac.
- alexpc201 2y ago
  You can’t make a decent iOS app with Swift Playgrounds, its just a toy for kids to learn to code.
  - interpol_p 2y ago
    You're probably correct about it being hard to make a decent iOS app in Swift Playgrounds, but it's definitely not a toy I use it for work several times per week. I often want to test out some Swift API, or build something in SwiftUI, and for some reason it's way faster to tap it out on my iPad in Swift Playgrounds than to create a new project or playground in Xcode on my Mac — even when I'm sitting directly in front of my Mac The iPad just doesn't have the clutter of windows and communication open like my mac does that makes it hard to focus on resolving one particular idea I have so many playground files on my iPad, a quick glance at my project list: interactive gesture-driven animations, testing out time and date logic, rendering perceptual gradients, checking baseline alignment in SF Symbols, messing with NSFilePresenter, mocking out a UI design, animated text transitions, etc
hot_gril 2y ago
It needs a regular web browser too.

havaloc 2y ago

Maybe this June there'll be an announcement, but like Lucy with the football, I'm not expecting it. I would instabuy if this was the case, especially with a cellular iPad.

swozey 2y ago

Yeah, I bought one of them a few years ago planning to use it for a ton of things. Turns out I only use it on flights to watch movies because I loathe the os.

School-Cotton 2y ago

They make a version of iPad that runs macOS, it is called a MacBook Pro.

zuminator 2y ago
MacBook Pros have touchscreens and Apple Pencil compatibility now?
- School-Cotton 2y ago
  Fair enough, I was being a bit flippant. It’d be nice if that existed, but I suspect Apple doesn’t want it to for market segmentation reasons.
  - kstrauser 2y ago
    I just went to store.apple.com and specced out a 13" iPad Pro with 2TB of storage, nano-texture glass, and a cell modem for $2,599. MacBook Pros start at $1,599. There's an enormous overlap in the price ranges of the mortal-person models of those products. It's not like the iPad Pro is the cheap alternative to a MBP. I mean, I couldn't even spec out a MacBook Air to cost as much.

ranyefet 2y ago

Just give us support for virtualization and we could install Linux on it and use it for development.

LeoPanthera 2y ago
UTM can be built for iOS.