5 ms·

> Our intention is that Raspberry Pi Connect will remain free (as in beer) So not free as in Freedom, no source code?

geerlingguy 2y ago
I asked about self-hosted relays on the forum [1]. Right now it doesn't look like they have plans to open the source code behind the actual service. Not sure if that's a 'no, never', or a 'we didn't think about it', but it would be good to ask on the Pi Forums maybe. Otherwise... the service uses wayvnc for the Pi server part, and you could replicate the setup with TigerVNC easily enough over local LAN or through a VPN. The Pi Connect service is the hosted backend; not sure what they're using there. [1] https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=370380 https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=370380
tleb_ 2y ago
Apparently not. .deb file: http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/rpi-connect/rpi-connect_1.0.0_arm64.deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/rpi-connec... It contains two Go executables in its /usr/bin path: rpi-connect and rpi-connectd.
homero 2y ago
How is beer free? I never understood that
- art-not 2y ago
  Free as in “free beer”. You don’t own the rights to the beer, you don’t have the ingredient list, but it costs no money
  - 369548684892826 2y ago
    > You don’t own the rights to the beer, you don’t have the ingredient list But beer's recipe is open source, anyone can brew their own. It's a really bad analogy, it should be free Coca-Cola or something.
    - filleduchaos 2y ago
      The recipe for soda is also open source - anybody can make their own carbonated soft drink. But I think if someone offered you "free soda" it would be pretty clear that they are offering you a specific soda whose recipe you almost certainly don't know, not the umbrella concept of "soda".
      - 369548684892826 2y ago
        Coca-cola is a type of soda so... I think you're agreeing with me? Kind of hard to tell.
        filleduchaos 2y ago
        "Free soda" and "free beer" are analogous, if that helps. Or, since it seems to need explaining, the point is that "beer" is not one thing with one recipe and if somebody offers you "free beer" it is pretty obviously a specific kind and batch of beer.
    - enlightens 2y ago
      The idea of "free beer" is if I'm giving away free beer at my establishment during an event, there are restrictions around that free beer. I'm not gonna fill up a tanker truck for you, I'm gonna kick you out if you start trying to resell it, I'm gonna cut you off it you've had too much, you can't get any if you're under age, etc, etc, etc. It's free, but you can't do anything you want with it. Really it's free to drink on my terms - and that's certainly "free", but it's not "freedom" (as in free speech).
- imwillofficial 2y ago
  You hang out with me? You get free beer.
- gaganyaan 2y ago
  It makes more sense to state it as "Free as in free beer", as opposed to "Free as in free speech": https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/620/what-is-the-difference-between-free-as-in-beer-and-free-as-in-speech https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/620/what-is-t...

I asked about self-hosted relays on the forum [1]. Right now it doesn't look like they have plans to open the source code behind the actual service. Not sure if that's a 'no, never', or a 'we didn't think about it', but it would be good to ask on the Pi Forums maybe. Otherwise... the service uses wayvnc for the Pi server part, and you could replicate the setup with TigerVNC easily enough over local LAN or through a VPN. The Pi Connect service is the hosted backend; not sure what they're using there. [1] https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=370380 https://forums.raspberrypi.com/viewtopic.php?t=370380

tleb_ 2y ago

Apparently not. .deb file: http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/rpi-connect/rpi-connect_1.0.0_arm64.deb http://archive.raspberrypi.org/debian/pool/main/r/rpi-connec... It contains two Go executables in its /usr/bin path: rpi-connect and rpi-connectd.

homero 2y ago

How is beer free? I never understood that

art-not 2y ago
Free as in “free beer”. You don’t own the rights to the beer, you don’t have the ingredient list, but it costs no money
- 369548684892826 2y ago
  > You don’t own the rights to the beer, you don’t have the ingredient list But beer's recipe is open source, anyone can brew their own. It's a really bad analogy, it should be free Coca-Cola or something.
  - filleduchaos 2y ago
    The recipe for soda is also open source - anybody can make their own carbonated soft drink. But I think if someone offered you "free soda" it would be pretty clear that they are offering you a specific soda whose recipe you almost certainly don't know, not the umbrella concept of "soda".
    - 369548684892826 2y ago
      Coca-cola is a type of soda so... I think you're agreeing with me? Kind of hard to tell.
      - filleduchaos 2y ago
        "Free soda" and "free beer" are analogous, if that helps. Or, since it seems to need explaining, the point is that "beer" is not one thing with one recipe and if somebody offers you "free beer" it is pretty obviously a specific kind and batch of beer.
  - enlightens 2y ago
    The idea of "free beer" is if I'm giving away free beer at my establishment during an event, there are restrictions around that free beer. I'm not gonna fill up a tanker truck for you, I'm gonna kick you out if you start trying to resell it, I'm gonna cut you off it you've had too much, you can't get any if you're under age, etc, etc, etc. It's free, but you can't do anything you want with it. Really it's free to drink on my terms - and that's certainly "free", but it's not "freedom" (as in free speech).
imwillofficial 2y ago
You hang out with me? You get free beer.
gaganyaan 2y ago
It makes more sense to state it as "Free as in free beer", as opposed to "Free as in free speech": https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/620/what-is-the-difference-between-free-as-in-beer-and-free-as-in-speech https://opensource.stackexchange.com/questions/620/what-is-t...