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I'm simply not interested in diversion. Me: Why did Israel and Egypt blockade Gaza? You: Did you know that Israel supported a coup against Fatah? What would

I'm simply not interested in diversion. Me: Why did Israel and Egypt blockade Gaza? You: Did you know that Israel supported a coup against Fatah? What would get me interested: You: The blockade came in response to a serious of tunnel attacks and is an attempt to limit materials that could be used to attack Israel. But there is important context that's missing. Hamas came to power after an attempted coup, and... I'll check into your 2 allegations and report back.

rendall 2y ago
Ok. I read the first part of the Vanity Fair article and of the Times article and I think I get the gists. Asking if I have them right: Regarding "the Israeli government supported Hamas", from the NYT: For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip — money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them. ... Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting. ...Mr. Netanyahu’s critics disparage them as part of a strategy of “buying quiet,” and the policy is in the middle of a ruthless reassessment following the attacks. Is that a fair excerpt? Regarding "Israel and the US attempted a coup against Hamas" the gist appears to be that Bush the younger (really, as an aside, the worst President the US has had in my lifetime and I'm old enough to have been alive during the Nixon administration) supported a coup against Hamas in an incompetent attempt to create conditions for a the formation of a Palestinian state during his Presidency. Is that fair? Probably not, because I don't have much patience for Bush shenanigans and it was hard to read.

rendall 2y ago

Ok. I read the first part of the Vanity Fair article and of the Times article and I think I get the gists. Asking if I have them right: Regarding "the Israeli government supported Hamas", from the NYT: For years, the Qatari government had been sending millions of dollars a month into the Gaza Strip — money that helped prop up the Hamas government there. Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu of Israel not only tolerated those payments, he had encouraged them. ... Allowing the payments — billions of dollars over roughly a decade — was a gamble by Mr. Netanyahu that a steady flow of money would maintain peace in Gaza, the eventual launching point of the Oct. 7 attacks, and keep Hamas focused on governing, not fighting. ...Mr. Netanyahu’s critics disparage them as part of a strategy of “buying quiet,” and the policy is in the middle of a ruthless reassessment following the attacks. Is that a fair excerpt? Regarding "Israel and the US attempted a coup against Hamas" the gist appears to be that Bush the younger (really, as an aside, the worst President the US has had in my lifetime and I'm old enough to have been alive during the Nixon administration) supported a coup against Hamas in an incompetent attempt to create conditions for a the formation of a Palestinian state during his Presidency. Is that fair? Probably not, because I don't have much patience for Bush shenanigans and it was hard to read.