I agree. I think current economical "norm" of having debt is made for purpose by states and banks. Because when you have debt, you will be more obedient citizen

I agree. I think current economical "norm" of having debt is made for purpose by states and banks. Because when you have debt, you will be more obedient citizen, always voting in favor of system that gives "benefits" of using money that you don't own. With price of loosing our freedom with every new regulations.