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Well I never! Side note: I wonder how much harm Apple is doing to it's brand with it's Pious Attitude and Arrogant Behaviour? Even as a long time, but relativ

Well I never! Side note: I wonder how much harm Apple is doing to it's brand with it's Pious Attitude and Arrogant Behaviour? Even as a long time, but relatively small shareholder, I'm on the fence about Apple right now. I cant see the iPhone failing to lay golden eggs anytime soon. But the Apple Vision Pro feels like they took those golden eggs and gold platted a toilet seat. Tim Cook runs a tight shop, but he's been riding the wave of iPhone growth and the engineering excellence that gave us Apple Silicon. The overall Apple brand hasnt been doing so well IMHO, and it's the Brand that saved Apple back in the 90s! You cant fake passion, and everytime we see Tim Cook on stage or presenting, I get the vibe he would rather be somewhere else!

SunlitCat 2y ago
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- havaloc 2y ago
  No, it's because SMS is awful. I'm looking forward to see how well Apple implements RCS and how many of these problems go away.
  - deleted 2y ago
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  - SunlitCat 2y ago
    Well, my comment wasn't aiming towards the technical details (which I even agree!), but more about the social background, with people considering other people who "just send green text" as "lesser". And no, it's not just the "young people crowd", but a certain part of society.
    - ElFitz 2y ago
      One could argue it’s a good thing: these people filter themselves out of our lives. It could almost make me wish for an Android.
- poochkoishi728 2y ago
  Devil's advocate: People using Android accept (for whatever reason) a less fluid, subpar UI and UX, while iPhone users are less likely to tolerate it (by nature of not using Android). Thus, using an iPhone could actually suggest a more sophisticated sense of taste i.e. being cooler.
  - chupchap 2y ago
    Could you give an example for a subpar UX?
  - samplatt 2y ago
    Devil's advocate or just trolling? I can't bloody stand using Apple's unintuitive garbage. I have great admiration for the hardware, but trying to drive their O/S I've always found to be a horribly frustrating experience.
    - SunlitCat 2y ago
      While their mobile OS doesn't differ much in usability from android phones, the ux / ui on their desktop operating system can be quite frustrating, confusing and especially if you come from a windows world, outright weird.
      - DEADMINCE 2y ago
        I think it's poorly made, inconsistent and unintuitive no matter what you're used to.
  - kernal 2y ago
    Devil’s brother advocate: People prefer using iOS over Android because they cannot handle having complete control over their UI and UX. They prefer having strict rules on what they can and cannot do and what apps they can and cannot use.
    - voltaireodactyl 2y ago
      It’s a division of markets similar to the auto industry: you see tons of Camrys customized with after market parts, but very rarely a BMW/Lexus similarly tricked out.
- DEADMINCE 2y ago
  > Just look at that ridiculous discussion about green text vs. blue text while messaging. People still use that as a marker for being cool vs. non cool in certain circles. Only in the US. People are much more susceptible to corporate messaging here.
staplers 2y ago
Interesting to see this downvoted. I've been on Apple for over 15 years and feel exactly the same. The ice is getting a lot thinner and I've been looking at options how to move out of their ecosystem.
- rokkitmensch 2y ago
  It's not that Linux on the desktop is closing the gap to Windows and MacOS, but that the latter two are aggressively shitting in the wine and gaslighting long-term users about the incredible improvements delivered every year. See: multi-monitor support, display management in general, window management, the accursed Spaces conceits, relocation of menubar toggles for sound and Bluetooth every OS release, pointless shuffling of the Settings app every release, comical degradation of iTunes over time... the list goes on. My kids are coming up on Linux, and are never going to have the hallowed halls of 10.6 to look back on fondly. It's sad, but every year I feel in a new way that we're merely strolling through a once-glorious cathedral built and abandoned by great engineers from a different era. I felt this way at Google ~5 years ago, and left as soon as I could slip the golden handcuffs.
- firecall 2y ago
  Yes, I thought so LOL Lots of comments, but yet the downvotes! :-) I guess I'm long past being on the internet for upvote points LOL

SunlitCat 2y ago

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havaloc 2y ago
No, it's because SMS is awful. I'm looking forward to see how well Apple implements RCS and how many of these problems go away.
- deleted 2y ago
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- SunlitCat 2y ago
  Well, my comment wasn't aiming towards the technical details (which I even agree!), but more about the social background, with people considering other people who "just send green text" as "lesser". And no, it's not just the "young people crowd", but a certain part of society.
  - ElFitz 2y ago
    One could argue it’s a good thing: these people filter themselves out of our lives. It could almost make me wish for an Android.
poochkoishi728 2y ago
Devil's advocate: People using Android accept (for whatever reason) a less fluid, subpar UI and UX, while iPhone users are less likely to tolerate it (by nature of not using Android). Thus, using an iPhone could actually suggest a more sophisticated sense of taste i.e. being cooler.
- chupchap 2y ago
  Could you give an example for a subpar UX?
- samplatt 2y ago
  Devil's advocate or just trolling? I can't bloody stand using Apple's unintuitive garbage. I have great admiration for the hardware, but trying to drive their O/S I've always found to be a horribly frustrating experience.
  - SunlitCat 2y ago
    While their mobile OS doesn't differ much in usability from android phones, the ux / ui on their desktop operating system can be quite frustrating, confusing and especially if you come from a windows world, outright weird.
    - DEADMINCE 2y ago
      I think it's poorly made, inconsistent and unintuitive no matter what you're used to.
- kernal 2y ago
  Devil’s brother advocate: People prefer using iOS over Android because they cannot handle having complete control over their UI and UX. They prefer having strict rules on what they can and cannot do and what apps they can and cannot use.
  - voltaireodactyl 2y ago
    It’s a division of markets similar to the auto industry: you see tons of Camrys customized with after market parts, but very rarely a BMW/Lexus similarly tricked out.
DEADMINCE 2y ago
> Just look at that ridiculous discussion about green text vs. blue text while messaging. People still use that as a marker for being cool vs. non cool in certain circles. Only in the US. People are much more susceptible to corporate messaging here.

staplers 2y ago

Interesting to see this downvoted. I've been on Apple for over 15 years and feel exactly the same. The ice is getting a lot thinner and I've been looking at options how to move out of their ecosystem.

rokkitmensch 2y ago
It's not that Linux on the desktop is closing the gap to Windows and MacOS, but that the latter two are aggressively shitting in the wine and gaslighting long-term users about the incredible improvements delivered every year. See: multi-monitor support, display management in general, window management, the accursed Spaces conceits, relocation of menubar toggles for sound and Bluetooth every OS release, pointless shuffling of the Settings app every release, comical degradation of iTunes over time... the list goes on. My kids are coming up on Linux, and are never going to have the hallowed halls of 10.6 to look back on fondly. It's sad, but every year I feel in a new way that we're merely strolling through a once-glorious cathedral built and abandoned by great engineers from a different era. I felt this way at Google ~5 years ago, and left as soon as I could slip the golden handcuffs.
firecall 2y ago
Yes, I thought so LOL Lots of comments, but yet the downvotes! :-) I guess I'm long past being on the internet for upvote points LOL