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Protonmail gave up the recovery address. Apple gave up the name, physical address, and phone number associated with it.

politelemon 2y ago
Yes it's a strangely skewed article focusing on proton, when: > Once he got it, he asked Apple for information about this second email address, and got its name, home address, and phone number. Afterwards, the Civil Guard also asked the telephone company responsible for the telephone number who was the owner of the line, which matches the name provided by Apple. Also, they say they have found that this person is registered at the same address provided by Apple.
- denton-scratch 2y ago
  It focuses on Proton because Proton is the link that purports to be secure. Nobody expects Apple or telcos to guard your identity.
  - BSDobelix 2y ago
    I can think of one country in the whole world (Iceland) where a company can tell the country it operates from, NO. However in this case (an operating police officer who gave information to a group who wants to split away from the country) i make a bold assumption that even Iceland would order the company to give the data out (since it has nothing to do with protecting journalists/whistleblowers, but espionage)
    - trogdor 2y ago
      >I can think of one country in the whole world (Iceland) where a company can tell the country it operates from, NO. Are you claiming that businesses in Iceland are not required to comply with court orders? On what basis do you believe that to be true?
      - denton-scratch 2y ago
        Doh. I read it as "a company can tell the country it operates from, Norway." I thought "Huh? Why would an Icelandic company operate from Norway?" Well, I thought, I suppose there must be quite a few. But why's he mentioning it here? Thanks for inadvertently clarifying.
        BSDobelix 2y ago
        >Doh. I read it as "a company can tell the country it operates from, Norway." Really Norway? Are you guys stupid?
        denton-scratch 2y ago
        NO is the country abbreviation for Norway. In answer to your question: firstly I am not "guys", I'm one person; and secondly, yes, I feel pretty stupid.
        BSDobelix 2y ago
        Sorry for my word's :(

Yes it's a strangely skewed article focusing on proton, when: > Once he got it, he asked Apple for information about this second email address, and got its name, home address, and phone number. Afterwards, the Civil Guard also asked the telephone company responsible for the telephone number who was the owner of the line, which matches the name provided by Apple. Also, they say they have found that this person is registered at the same address provided by Apple.

denton-scratch 2y ago
It focuses on Proton because Proton is the link that purports to be secure. Nobody expects Apple or telcos to guard your identity.
- BSDobelix 2y ago
  I can think of one country in the whole world (Iceland) where a company can tell the country it operates from, NO. However in this case (an operating police officer who gave information to a group who wants to split away from the country) i make a bold assumption that even Iceland would order the company to give the data out (since it has nothing to do with protecting journalists/whistleblowers, but espionage)
  - trogdor 2y ago
    >I can think of one country in the whole world (Iceland) where a company can tell the country it operates from, NO. Are you claiming that businesses in Iceland are not required to comply with court orders? On what basis do you believe that to be true?
    - denton-scratch 2y ago
      Doh. I read it as "a company can tell the country it operates from, Norway." I thought "Huh? Why would an Icelandic company operate from Norway?" Well, I thought, I suppose there must be quite a few. But why's he mentioning it here? Thanks for inadvertently clarifying.
      - BSDobelix 2y ago
        >Doh. I read it as "a company can tell the country it operates from, Norway." Really Norway? Are you guys stupid?
        denton-scratch 2y ago
        NO is the country abbreviation for Norway. In answer to your question: firstly I am not "guys", I'm one person; and secondly, yes, I feel pretty stupid.
        BSDobelix 2y ago
        Sorry for my word's :(