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I want to add something to the previous response. > A better analogy would be if the Republic of Ireland settled its citizens there en masse and provided them

I want to add something to the previous response. > A better analogy would be if the Republic of Ireland settled its citizens there en masse and provided them with weapons, This did actually happen, but the other way around. The British settled citizens en masse in Ireland and provided them with weapons. This was called the Ulster Plantation. Even today many people in the North of Ireland speak with a dialect derived from the Scots language. Interestingly, Ronald Storrs, the first British military governor in Jerusalem, was recorded to have said that the Balfour Declaration’s purpose was to form a “little loyal Jewish Ulster in a sea of potentially hostile Arabism.” [0] > Obviosly, Republic of Ireland doesn't employ this tactic No, and I think the comparison is a little unfair. It's true that these things can be abused tactically but it's not always the case. 0: https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/winston-churchill-sent-the-black-and-tans-to-palestine-1.3089140 https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/books/winston-churchill-s...

ethbr1 3y ago
> Interestingly, Ronald Storrs, the first British military governor in Jerusalem, was recorded to have said that the Balfour Declaration’s purpose was to form a “little loyal Jewish Ulster in a sea of potentially hostile Arabism.” And to further this, historical and current Israeli restrictions on West Bank Palestinians and authorization and promotion of Israeli settlers seem like exactly the playbook one would run for crypto-annexation.
nivertech 3y ago
I'm familiar with Anglo-Saxon and Norsemen colonization of Celtic people in Britain and Ireland. The latter is referred as a series of "Plantations"[1, 2]. Interestingly, while in some western/highland parts of Britain, Celts kept their language, but adopted Anglicanism as a religion, in most of the Ireland they kept their Catholic religion, but adopted English language, and only in some western parts of Ireland kept both. Anyway, if we go back to medieval times, then we can also talk about Arab and Ottoman colonization of Israel. --- [1]. Israel condemns London's Ulster plantation project after private colonisation contract was awarded by the Queen https://postimg.cc/xJ1XpHx7 https://postimg.cc/xJ1XpHx7 [2]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland

ethbr1 3y ago

> Interestingly, Ronald Storrs, the first British military governor in Jerusalem, was recorded to have said that the Balfour Declaration’s purpose was to form a “little loyal Jewish Ulster in a sea of potentially hostile Arabism.” And to further this, historical and current Israeli restrictions on West Bank Palestinians and authorization and promotion of Israeli settlers seem like exactly the playbook one would run for crypto-annexation.

nivertech 3y ago

I'm familiar with Anglo-Saxon and Norsemen colonization of Celtic people in Britain and Ireland. The latter is referred as a series of "Plantations"[1, 2]. Interestingly, while in some western/highland parts of Britain, Celts kept their language, but adopted Anglicanism as a religion, in most of the Ireland they kept their Catholic religion, but adopted English language, and only in some western parts of Ireland kept both. Anyway, if we go back to medieval times, then we can also talk about Arab and Ottoman colonization of Israel. --- [1]. Israel condemns London's Ulster plantation project after private colonisation contract was awarded by the Queen https://postimg.cc/xJ1XpHx7 https://postimg.cc/xJ1XpHx7 [2]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plantations_of_Ireland