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Yeah, the problem is that you are relying on free contributors, these free contributors will get discouraged if your ideas can just be stolen by ChatGPT as thei

Yeah, the problem is that you are relying on free contributors, these free contributors will get discouraged if your ideas can just be stolen by ChatGPT as their idea for a solution.

arresin 2y ago
Also, people rely on the feedback to show how helpful their contributions are. The SO economy relies on "karma". If you silo off the view from the production you get a situation where producers are no longer incentivized.
- cloverich 2y ago
  Here is one easy way to solve this problem based on my current workflow: ChatGPT recognizes the novel pseudo addition you arrive at in your coding and prompts you to review the Q&A summary it creates and posts on your behalf. I would happily do this.
foundart 2y ago
Agreed, and I believe SO and OpenAI must realize this also. It's in everyone's best interest to keep the contributions coming. I certainly hope they can figure out a way to achieve that.
gameshot911 2y ago
Eh, I think people's motivations for responding on forums like SO are other than whether ChatGPT will incorporate their information or not.
hbn 2y ago
Most SO answers are clarifying a niche implementation detail or gotcha of a programming language, troubleshooting someone's build configuration, etc. If an LLM trained on that info and later helped someone solve their problem by spitting out an answer, I don't see who was discouraged, nor do I think any "ideas" were "stolen." You don't go to SO to crowdsource creative ideas. It's for very specific one-off questions that many people will likely find themselves asking at some point.
AbstractH24 2y ago
By that logic moderators on Reddit should be upset that people are profiting off their free services. For some reason, they don't. Honestly, I don't understand why, but there is a cohort of people out there who are ok with it.
- theamk 2y ago
  I think it's about changing expectations. If one becomes Reddit moderator then from day 1 they knew Reddit will benefit from them. If they didn't want it, they would not become one. When this changed (say Reddit closed their API) the moderators got really upset. But when people posted on StackOverflow, they expected that their work is used by fellow humans, and that they get recognition for their hard-worked answers (even if it's just their name in the rank table). When this changed, people got upset. Either way, I'd expect people who joined StackOverflow after this deal is announced are not going to be upset. But they are the minority, given how long SO has been around.
doctorpangloss 2y ago
If you can predict the future about what compels people to work for giant corporations for free, go and be a billionaire.

Yeah, the problem is that you are relying on free contributors, these free contributors will get discouraged if your ideas can just be stolen by ChatGPT as their idea for a solution.

arresin 2y ago

Also, people rely on the feedback to show how helpful their contributions are. The SO economy relies on "karma". If you silo off the view from the production you get a situation where producers are no longer incentivized.

cloverich 2y ago
Here is one easy way to solve this problem based on my current workflow: ChatGPT recognizes the novel pseudo addition you arrive at in your coding and prompts you to review the Q&A summary it creates and posts on your behalf. I would happily do this.

foundart 2y ago

Agreed, and I believe SO and OpenAI must realize this also. It's in everyone's best interest to keep the contributions coming. I certainly hope they can figure out a way to achieve that.

gameshot911 2y ago

Eh, I think people's motivations for responding on forums like SO are other than whether ChatGPT will incorporate their information or not.

hbn 2y ago

Most SO answers are clarifying a niche implementation detail or gotcha of a programming language, troubleshooting someone's build configuration, etc. If an LLM trained on that info and later helped someone solve their problem by spitting out an answer, I don't see who was discouraged, nor do I think any "ideas" were "stolen." You don't go to SO to crowdsource creative ideas. It's for very specific one-off questions that many people will likely find themselves asking at some point.

AbstractH24 2y ago

By that logic moderators on Reddit should be upset that people are profiting off their free services. For some reason, they don't. Honestly, I don't understand why, but there is a cohort of people out there who are ok with it.

theamk 2y ago
I think it's about changing expectations. If one becomes Reddit moderator then from day 1 they knew Reddit will benefit from them. If they didn't want it, they would not become one. When this changed (say Reddit closed their API) the moderators got really upset. But when people posted on StackOverflow, they expected that their work is used by fellow humans, and that they get recognition for their hard-worked answers (even if it's just their name in the rank table). When this changed, people got upset. Either way, I'd expect people who joined StackOverflow after this deal is announced are not going to be upset. But they are the minority, given how long SO has been around.

doctorpangloss 2y ago

If you can predict the future about what compels people to work for giant corporations for free, go and be a billionaire.