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i am curious ig there is a valid threat in israelis reading al jazeera. or if they have any proof of any falsehoods being published there and why it would need

i am curious ig there is a valid threat in israelis reading al jazeera. or if they have any proof of any falsehoods being published there and why it would need to be shut down?. any good neutral resource around this for a non-israeli/non-palestinian person to make sense of this? from the surface this looks so grim, but i do not want to jump to conclusions... its so hard to make sense of this more and more.. and it becomes easier to beleive the wrong things.

skulk 2y ago
It's hard to read or watch Al Jazeera's reporting on this matter without feeling utterly disgusted at how a certain military is treating a civilian population (be it in Gaza or the West Bank). They make the Israelis and the IDF look like absolute monsters.
- sim7c00 2y ago
  thanks for the reply. i do feel the same, as in, i sometimes even think that way too due to the news. i dont watch al jazera, but in my country, the IDF does not come out good either... Israelis though, they dont get chucked in with the same sentiment. (im dutch, there's reports of the injustices against civilians, but no word on the general population of israel being 'bad' or something like that.) im maybe lucky i have some israeli ex colleagues who can help me see that the people there are also against violence and injustices. (what those are is not the point i guess. - maybe that's an opinion different on both sides of a fence..) There's in our national news things like a report that says there's like 35k deaths in gaza, then the next report says there's like 30k children killed. - it's really easy to get a weird idea here..... (I simply assume no soldier would willingly just kill mostly children - but maybe thats also wrong??) don't want to say i am with one or another side. just want to point out how reporting, as you said, can make things look a certain way, while they might not be. This is now true for most conflicts as there's so many sides of each story, and then all the content-farms and propaganda ontop of that. everyone is trying to win the others over to their side of the debate to justify their war, rather than to build peace. (i think?)
catlikesshrimp 2y ago
I am all agaisnt censorship, but I am ok with gagging the guy screaming fire in the theather. 90% fake news outlets fall into that category. IDK about your country, but Latam RT was 25% discussion about how Russia has been great through history, 25% one sided debates about how democratic countries are hypocrites and bad, 25% wrong and one sided reads into current events, and 25% travel bloggers in Russia. I am on the fence about removing RT, but arab Al-Jazera calling for action and praising the martyrs falls into my censorable bag
- sim7c00 2y ago
  I like your analogy on the gagging of the guy screaming fire. this is a very good and clear way to put it thanks. that guy deserves a ban from the theatre for sure ;)

skulk 2y ago

It's hard to read or watch Al Jazeera's reporting on this matter without feeling utterly disgusted at how a certain military is treating a civilian population (be it in Gaza or the West Bank). They make the Israelis and the IDF look like absolute monsters.

sim7c00 2y ago
thanks for the reply. i do feel the same, as in, i sometimes even think that way too due to the news. i dont watch al jazera, but in my country, the IDF does not come out good either... Israelis though, they dont get chucked in with the same sentiment. (im dutch, there's reports of the injustices against civilians, but no word on the general population of israel being 'bad' or something like that.) im maybe lucky i have some israeli ex colleagues who can help me see that the people there are also against violence and injustices. (what those are is not the point i guess. - maybe that's an opinion different on both sides of a fence..) There's in our national news things like a report that says there's like 35k deaths in gaza, then the next report says there's like 30k children killed. - it's really easy to get a weird idea here..... (I simply assume no soldier would willingly just kill mostly children - but maybe thats also wrong??) don't want to say i am with one or another side. just want to point out how reporting, as you said, can make things look a certain way, while they might not be. This is now true for most conflicts as there's so many sides of each story, and then all the content-farms and propaganda ontop of that. everyone is trying to win the others over to their side of the debate to justify their war, rather than to build peace. (i think?)

catlikesshrimp 2y ago

I am all agaisnt censorship, but I am ok with gagging the guy screaming fire in the theather. 90% fake news outlets fall into that category. IDK about your country, but Latam RT was 25% discussion about how Russia has been great through history, 25% one sided debates about how democratic countries are hypocrites and bad, 25% wrong and one sided reads into current events, and 25% travel bloggers in Russia. I am on the fence about removing RT, but arab Al-Jazera calling for action and praising the martyrs falls into my censorable bag

sim7c00 2y ago
I like your analogy on the gagging of the guy screaming fire. this is a very good and clear way to put it thanks. that guy deserves a ban from the theatre for sure ;)