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The role of size of modern gigantic SUVs is vastly overstated. Speed is much more of an issue. But it doubtful that citizens (or planners) would be willing to a
by freddie_mercury 2y ago
The role of size of modern gigantic SUVs is vastly overstated. Speed is much more of an issue. But it doubtful that citizens (or planners) would be willing to accept the residential & city speed limits required to meaningfully affect change.
"Across 2000-2019 I estimate that 8,131 pedestrian lives would have been
saved if all light trucks had been cars. The reduction would be equal to avoiding 9.5% of all pedestrian deaths"
https://www.justintyndall.com/uploads/2/8/5/5/28559839/tyndall_pedestrian.pdf#page=25 https://www.justintyndall.com/uploads/2/8/5/5/28559839/tynda...
Other countries who have seen large increases in SUV ownership (i.e. other parts of the anglosphere) have still reduced pedestrian fatalities.
https://www.ft.com/content/9c936d97-5088-4edd-a8bd-628f7c7bba31 https://www.ft.com/content/9c936d97-5088-4edd-a8bd-628f7c7bb...
And the NYTimes found that pedestrian fatalities only increased at night, not during the day, suggesting vehicle size isn't the primary factor.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/11/upshot/nighttime-deaths.html https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/12/11/upshot/nightt...
Even a microcar still weighs 350kg
https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/microcar/microcar-mc1-2007-review/ https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-reviews/microcar/microcar-...
Even a circa 1995 era car moving at 32mph has a 25% fatality rate on pedestrians.
https://aaafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2011PedestrianRiskVsSpeedReport.pdf https://aaafoundation.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/2011Ped...
Even at 23mph there is still a 10% fatality rate. At 16mph there's a 10% risk of severe injury. So you'd need to have residential speed limits something under 20mph and probably under 15mph. Right now residential speed limits in the US are 30-35mph in most jurisdictions. With some places making it actually illegal to go slower than 20mph. And those speed limits largely unenforced anyway, as anyone with children who play outside can tell you.
https://www.mit.edu/~jfc/urban-speed.html https://www.mit.edu/~jfc/urban-speed.html
- tim333 2y agoCentral London has gone mostly 20mph and it seems successful. The traffic wasn't very fast there anyway. Wales did a 20mph in all urban areas thing and it's been a bit mixed I think. Some people ok, some changing back.