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what a starange statement about the counterattack, as if there was a definite knowledge about the future and the Western propaganda suppressed it. They attempt
by mrtksn 3y ago
what a starange statement about the counterattack, as if there was a definite knowledge about the future and the Western propaganda suppressed it.
They attempted at taking back their own lands and they failed. The same people claiming to know the future also used to claim that Russia would not attack and later that Ukraine will fall in matter of days.
Maybe just stop listening to fortune tellers.
- cpursley 3y agoExactly, I prefer to listen to experts and the experts were saying it was a bad idea (esp without air power). It was news media and politicians (ie, not military experts) that cheered it on.
- mrtksn 3y agoIt's amazing how you believe that militaries and politicians operate without experts and there're experts on the social media/ tradmedia who came together analysed the situation, came to a definitive prediction about the outcome of a military operation but the western media surpassed those experts and as a result politicians and military engaged in a futile counterattack. Fascinating mental model on how the world works.
- cpursley 3y agoThat’s exactly what happened, yeah. And warfare/foreign policy is not the only issue they gaslight us on.
- DiggyJohnson 3y agoYou're being very disrespectful in this conversation. I was GP has provided links and references when they made their comment, but they are certainly correct. The way the conflict is covered in US media makes it seem like Ukraine is wily superhero making good progress against the bumbling Russians. This does not reflect the current reality or future prospects in the conflict.
- mrtksn 3y agoApologies if I sounded disrespectful, I’m just fascinated that people can conceptualize the world in this way.
- llamaimperative 3y agoPretty sure the actual world leading experts on Ukraine’s situation are the ones making battlefield decisions in Ukraine. Like the other commenter said, what a fascinating model of the world you’ve built here.
- cpursley 3y agoHolding a non-narrative driven view might be fascinating for some, I suppose.
- llamaimperative 3y agoYou are literally constructing a narrative that western news media makes the decisions on the Ukrainian battlefield.
- cpursley 3y agoYes, it is a major contributing factor. PR wins help with public support for funding. This situation/topic is not the only situation they intentionally manipulate public option on.
- llamaimperative 3y agoLots of narrative here buddy
- cpursley 3y agoLot of books, buddy. You might want to start with this one: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12617.Manufacturing_Consent https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/12617.Manufacturing_Cons...
- llamaimperative 3y agoI'm pretty sure that "western news anchors produce an expected-to-fail counteroffensive in Ukraine" would even make Chomsky roll his eyes. Your explanation is not even internally coherent. A successful counteroffensive is a PR win. An unsuccessful one is a PR loss, obviously.