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>> How would you coerce or incentivize the developers of this DE to work on a more mature project? > Being a cog in a wheel is always a sacrifice, but also mor

>> How would you coerce or incentivize the developers of this DE to work on a more mature project? > Being a cog in a wheel is always a sacrifice, but also more successful. It’s more likely to be usable by regular people and overall more likely to be used. > The biggest problem with desktop Linux is it’s a fragmentation of unpolished projects, many of which overlapping each other. Maybe you didn't realise this, but you didn't actually answer the question: exactly how would you convince the people having fun writing their own little project to switch to being an unpaid employee on someone else's project? I want to hear the actual sentence you'd utter to convince someone to give up a hobby and become an unpaid employee. I mean, what could I possibly say to you that would make you give up cycling/TV/reading/art/gaming/$HOBBY and spend that time as an unpaid employee for me?

pipeline_peak 3y ago
When did anyone claim this was a hobbyist project? It looks pretty serious to me.
- Skeime 3y ago
  "Serious" and "hobbyist" are not antonyms.
  - exe34 3y ago
    An important distinction, I'm sure, but entirely beside the point. It's people scratching an itch in their spare time, so we can't expect them to do things the way we want. We can choose to ignore them at best.
    - Skeime 3y ago
      That’s what I wanted to say as well. This might look and even be serious, but it’s still someone’s hobby project as well. They can do whatever they want.
- lelanthran 3y ago
  > When did anyone claim this was a hobbyist project? It looks pretty serious to me. You did, right here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40269321 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40269321 >>>>> Don’t Linux people realize there are a limited number of people to work on these things in their spare time for free? How were you expecting someone to interpret "things in their spare time"? What other meaning did you have in mind for that sentence? Regardless of whether it is a hobby or not, and how that differs from your meaning of "spare time", I still want to know what it is I could say to you that would make you give up your spare time to do unpaid labour for me. In context, I think this is a legitimate question - you've bemoaned the fact of people doing something "in their spare time" instead of being an unpaid employee, so the question "What can *I* say to *you* to make *you* spend *your* spare time being *my* unpaid employee?" still stands If nothing I could possibly say would convince you, that's okay too - just say so, like this "There's nothing you can say to make me your unpaid employee".
- JaDogg 3y ago
  Even if this is a serious project, particular author of this project has a right to build something, and try to carve out an audience for it. Nothing wrong with that.

pipeline_peak 3y ago

When did anyone claim this was a hobbyist project? It looks pretty serious to me.

Skeime 3y ago
"Serious" and "hobbyist" are not antonyms.
- exe34 3y ago
  An important distinction, I'm sure, but entirely beside the point. It's people scratching an itch in their spare time, so we can't expect them to do things the way we want. We can choose to ignore them at best.
  - Skeime 3y ago
    That’s what I wanted to say as well. This might look and even be serious, but it’s still someone’s hobby project as well. They can do whatever they want.
lelanthran 3y ago
> When did anyone claim this was a hobbyist project? It looks pretty serious to me. You did, right here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40269321 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40269321 >>>>> Don’t Linux people realize there are a limited number of people to work on these things in their spare time for free? How were you expecting someone to interpret "things in their spare time"? What other meaning did you have in mind for that sentence? Regardless of whether it is a hobby or not, and how that differs from your meaning of "spare time", I still want to know what it is I could say to you that would make you give up your spare time to do unpaid labour for me. In context, I think this is a legitimate question - you've bemoaned the fact of people doing something "in their spare time" instead of being an unpaid employee, so the question "What can *I* say to *you* to make *you* spend *your* spare time being *my* unpaid employee?" still stands If nothing I could possibly say would convince you, that's okay too - just say so, like this "There's nothing you can say to make me your unpaid employee".
JaDogg 3y ago
Even if this is a serious project, particular author of this project has a right to build something, and try to carve out an audience for it. Nothing wrong with that.