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As an Italian, I've tried Starbucks once in my life as soon as I came to live in Berlin many years ago. I don't get all the hype and the following that the bra

As an Italian, I've tried Starbucks once in my life as soon as I came to live in Berlin many years ago. I don't get all the hype and the following that the brand has, since the coffee tastes as muddy water and the cappuccino is just milk with some droplets of coffee in it. Obviously the price is exaggerated. What impresses me is that now Starbucks is opening in many cities in Italy and it gets more followers/adopters. If you really want a good coffee, just go to any bar/café which isn't branded (Starbucks, Einstein, whatever). Their coffee will taste much better and at a cheaper price.

ahartmetz 2y ago
I'm not even Italian, but the (partially) fake Italian size names at Starbucks are enough to turn me off of that vendor of pretentious sugar drinks. Is their straight coffee actually bad these days? I've read that it used to be good. Heck, McD's coffee in Germany was actually good... initially, 10+ years ago. Not anymore.
ajkjk 2y ago
It has been a long time since I thought of sturbucks in the US as hyped. In my world it is for 'basic' people.
- red-iron-pine 2y ago
  coffee equivalent to McDonalds. consistently the same, often better than you'd think, but nothing amazing.
xandrius 2y ago
Starbucks is the way for people who don't actually like coffee to still enjoy it. It's the corona of beers: simple and easy to drink even if you hate the bitterness from coffee. If you already enjoy proper espressos, French press and the likes, then it's clearly not for you.
- tropicalbeach 2y ago
  The exact opposite actually starbucks and others that are similar are for people who aren't stuck up and have things to get done so they need something quick since they didn't have time to make it at home. Coffee is for caffeine to get work done, to me an iced latte or ice coffee from Starbucks tastes just fine compared some $10 latte at some over hyped coffee shop. Corona and lime is good also not sure why people hate on it. No one cares how cool the craft beer drinkers think they are.
  - xandrius 2y ago
    You get that kind of people with anything really: bread, wine, cheeses, chocolate and food in general. There are those who care about the quality, craftsmanship and taste, since they can enjoy it, and then those who just see those as a good way to get something specific (booze, calories, umami, etc.) To be totally honest, the ones who care are the people who, whether people like it or not, want the product to be at its best form and shape.

ahartmetz 2y ago

I'm not even Italian, but the (partially) fake Italian size names at Starbucks are enough to turn me off of that vendor of pretentious sugar drinks. Is their straight coffee actually bad these days? I've read that it used to be good. Heck, McD's coffee in Germany was actually good... initially, 10+ years ago. Not anymore.

ajkjk 2y ago

It has been a long time since I thought of sturbucks in the US as hyped. In my world it is for 'basic' people.

red-iron-pine 2y ago
coffee equivalent to McDonalds. consistently the same, often better than you'd think, but nothing amazing.

xandrius 2y ago

Starbucks is the way for people who don't actually like coffee to still enjoy it. It's the corona of beers: simple and easy to drink even if you hate the bitterness from coffee. If you already enjoy proper espressos, French press and the likes, then it's clearly not for you.

tropicalbeach 2y ago
The exact opposite actually starbucks and others that are similar are for people who aren't stuck up and have things to get done so they need something quick since they didn't have time to make it at home. Coffee is for caffeine to get work done, to me an iced latte or ice coffee from Starbucks tastes just fine compared some $10 latte at some over hyped coffee shop. Corona and lime is good also not sure why people hate on it. No one cares how cool the craft beer drinkers think they are.
- xandrius 2y ago
  You get that kind of people with anything really: bread, wine, cheeses, chocolate and food in general. There are those who care about the quality, craftsmanship and taste, since they can enjoy it, and then those who just see those as a good way to get something specific (booze, calories, umami, etc.) To be totally honest, the ones who care are the people who, whether people like it or not, want the product to be at its best form and shape.