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Even that example shows some thought has been put into non-car users. The road itself is one way for car traffic, but two way for bikes. This likely allows a n

Even that example shows some thought has been put into non-car users. The road itself is one way for car traffic, but two way for bikes. This likely allows a non-main road cut though for bike traffic. The pavement (sidewalk) outside the front of the school is double the width and has bollards along it to stop cars parking on the pavement. This slow massively narrows the road to you’ll likely be driving about 20-30mph regardless of the speed limit. The junction behind the initial street view has a tiny traffic island with a bollard to protect bikes coming the “wrong way” out of the one way road from cars turning into it. Without that cars turning right into it would always cut that corner. Given the space constraints it’s actually a pretty well designed street.

arp242 2y ago
Yeah, overall Bristol isn't too bad – I've lived in worse places. However, many footpaths are very narrow – sometimes not even enough for two people to walk side-by-side – and there just isn't any more space unless you half the parking. That would actually be good eventually IMHO, but is a far larger change than the previous poster was suggesting. In some ways these small narrow roads are better by the way, even for non-cars. Everyone understands the need to share the road. Big roads seem to create a "this is for cars only and everything else doesn't belong here and shouldn't be here" type of mindset.
- oakesm9 2y ago
  I agree. Two lanes of parked cars is in some ways a "waste of space", but in areas with houses built before cars it's not actually too bad. Naturally keeps the speed of cars passing through pretty low so biking in the road isn't too dangerous.
alright2565 2y ago
Those signs indicate 20km/h! I've never seen a speed limit sign in the united states under 25mph.
- alistairSH 2y ago
  Yeah, default residential is 25mph in the US, which IMO is too fast for areas where kids might be running about. The only time I've seen lower is private neighborhood streets.
- arp242 2y ago
  UK uses imperial for road markings; it's 20 miles per hour, or ~33km/h.
- kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
  20mph does get signed in some areas for traffic calming. NYC is dropping from 25 to 20 soon.
- oakesm9 2y ago
  As other have noted, it's 20mph, which is pretty common in cities in the UK. In that example even the more major road with two way traffic and a seperated bike lane is 20mph. 30mph is more common in towns. You might see 40mph if going through a rural village. 50mph isn't too common, but you sometimes see it on smaller or busier major road (A roads). 60mph is the "national" speed limit for major roads and rural roads for cars. Some of these are narrow and twisty, so 60mph should be seen as a maximum, not a recommendation of how fast to actually go. For example, this road in Cornwall[0] would be under national speed limit of 60mph, but you'd have to be insane to drive at that speed. The national speed limit is actually lower for vehicles over 3 tonnes or towing (50mph) or heavy good vehicles and busses (40mph), which is why the signpost for national speed is a white circle with a black cross through it rather than a number. You'll be 70mph on most motoways (highways) and for cars on national speed limit roads with a central reservation. [0] https://maps.app.goo.gl/9Tw4fkxviXbN2Fxy9 https://maps.app.goo.gl/9Tw4fkxviXbN2Fxy9

arp242 2y ago

Yeah, overall Bristol isn't too bad – I've lived in worse places. However, many footpaths are very narrow – sometimes not even enough for two people to walk side-by-side – and there just isn't any more space unless you half the parking. That would actually be good eventually IMHO, but is a far larger change than the previous poster was suggesting. In some ways these small narrow roads are better by the way, even for non-cars. Everyone understands the need to share the road. Big roads seem to create a "this is for cars only and everything else doesn't belong here and shouldn't be here" type of mindset.

oakesm9 2y ago
I agree. Two lanes of parked cars is in some ways a "waste of space", but in areas with houses built before cars it's not actually too bad. Naturally keeps the speed of cars passing through pretty low so biking in the road isn't too dangerous.

alright2565 2y ago

Those signs indicate 20km/h! I've never seen a speed limit sign in the united states under 25mph.

alistairSH 2y ago
Yeah, default residential is 25mph in the US, which IMO is too fast for areas where kids might be running about. The only time I've seen lower is private neighborhood streets.
arp242 2y ago
UK uses imperial for road markings; it's 20 miles per hour, or ~33km/h.
kevin_thibedeau 2y ago
20mph does get signed in some areas for traffic calming. NYC is dropping from 25 to 20 soon.
oakesm9 2y ago
As other have noted, it's 20mph, which is pretty common in cities in the UK. In that example even the more major road with two way traffic and a seperated bike lane is 20mph. 30mph is more common in towns. You might see 40mph if going through a rural village. 50mph isn't too common, but you sometimes see it on smaller or busier major road (A roads). 60mph is the "national" speed limit for major roads and rural roads for cars. Some of these are narrow and twisty, so 60mph should be seen as a maximum, not a recommendation of how fast to actually go. For example, this road in Cornwall[0] would be under national speed limit of 60mph, but you'd have to be insane to drive at that speed. The national speed limit is actually lower for vehicles over 3 tonnes or towing (50mph) or heavy good vehicles and busses (40mph), which is why the signpost for national speed is a white circle with a black cross through it rather than a number. You'll be 70mph on most motoways (highways) and for cars on national speed limit roads with a central reservation. [0] https://maps.app.goo.gl/9Tw4fkxviXbN2Fxy9 https://maps.app.goo.gl/9Tw4fkxviXbN2Fxy9