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I can't believe this hasn't been a bigger issue. Other than a handful of comments on steam about this when the game was first released, most people have either

I can't believe this hasn't been a bigger issue. Other than a handful of comments on steam about this when the game was first released, most people have either ignored this or don't care.

zik 2y ago
Most people don't really understand what it is or how completely it destroys your computer's security mechanisms.
simianparrot 2y ago
There’s a lot of posts about the anticheat and the issues it causes players on the steam forum, dozens if not hundreds a day still. But you’re right; enough people don’t care so the developers do nothing. Interesting side effect of this has been that it has driven a substantial amount of people to play the game under a Linux distro using Valve’s proton wrapper for Windows emulation (same as is used on Steam Deck) because the anticheat version for Linux doesn’t have the rootkit element. Conversely most of the cheaters that this system is designed to stop seem to also use Linux, making the entire endeavour pointless from the developer’s side, yet they remain adamant in keeping a system that harms many and doesn’t even prevent cheating anyway…
int_19h 2y ago
Anti-cheat has been socially normalized for PC gaming for a very long time now.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
Welcome to gaming drama. Just like everything else, it's all about timing and vitality. That's why so much legal stuff that actually makes gaming worse gets through. Law isn't sexy, it's not instant. But yea, "victory for gaming" that they don't need to log into an account... As they log into an account to boot the game up. But TWO accounts, absolutely not. Unless it's Call of Duty. Or Diablo. Or Assassin's Creed (which isn't even an online game?). I can't even feel sorry. They bring it all on themselves.
- pseudo0 2y ago
  An account that you can only have in 73 countries, while the game was originally sold in ~190. The PSN ToS is pretty awful, but what got a lot of attention was Sony just retroactively making the game unplayable for over half the globe. Yes, you can lie and give them a fake address, but in the ToS they can demand ID to prove your identity and location.
  - bluefirebrand 2y ago
    What's worse is they updated the steam sales regions, and they weren't even going to sell it in all 73 countries that PSN is allowed in They marked something like 15 countries to allow sales, and blocked the rest. Just completely mismanaged the entire way through
  - arprocter 2y ago
    When I moved from one country to another, PSN wouldn't allow me to pay for things with the card issued by my new bank - I ended up having to open a new Sony account I'm not sure if things are the same now - that happened in the era of transition from PS3 to 4

I can't believe this hasn't been a bigger issue. Other than a handful of comments on steam about this when the game was first released, most people have either ignored this or don't care.

zik 2y ago

Most people don't really understand what it is or how completely it destroys your computer's security mechanisms.

simianparrot 2y ago

There’s a lot of posts about the anticheat and the issues it causes players on the steam forum, dozens if not hundreds a day still. But you’re right; enough people don’t care so the developers do nothing. Interesting side effect of this has been that it has driven a substantial amount of people to play the game under a Linux distro using Valve’s proton wrapper for Windows emulation (same as is used on Steam Deck) because the anticheat version for Linux doesn’t have the rootkit element. Conversely most of the cheaters that this system is designed to stop seem to also use Linux, making the entire endeavour pointless from the developer’s side, yet they remain adamant in keeping a system that harms many and doesn’t even prevent cheating anyway…

int_19h 2y ago

Anti-cheat has been socially normalized for PC gaming for a very long time now.

johnnyanmac 2y ago

Welcome to gaming drama. Just like everything else, it's all about timing and vitality. That's why so much legal stuff that actually makes gaming worse gets through. Law isn't sexy, it's not instant. But yea, "victory for gaming" that they don't need to log into an account... As they log into an account to boot the game up. But TWO accounts, absolutely not. Unless it's Call of Duty. Or Diablo. Or Assassin's Creed (which isn't even an online game?). I can't even feel sorry. They bring it all on themselves.

pseudo0 2y ago
An account that you can only have in 73 countries, while the game was originally sold in ~190. The PSN ToS is pretty awful, but what got a lot of attention was Sony just retroactively making the game unplayable for over half the globe. Yes, you can lie and give them a fake address, but in the ToS they can demand ID to prove your identity and location.
- bluefirebrand 2y ago
  What's worse is they updated the steam sales regions, and they weren't even going to sell it in all 73 countries that PSN is allowed in They marked something like 15 countries to allow sales, and blocked the rest. Just completely mismanaged the entire way through
- arprocter 2y ago
  When I moved from one country to another, PSN wouldn't allow me to pay for things with the card issued by my new bank - I ended up having to open a new Sony account I'm not sure if things are the same now - that happened in the era of transition from PS3 to 4