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Who knows if these people realise how idiotic they appear when they pull the free speech thing as it should be something that allows them to live without any la
by lnxg33k1 2y ago
Who knows if these people realise how idiotic they appear when they pull the free speech thing as it should be something that allows them to live without any law
- anon291 2y agoWell they should be allowed to live without any law that restricts their freedom to speak. Not any law in general, but just those that the constitution, our social contract, protects. In particular, the comments made are in no way a criminal threat, so people have an absolute right to say them, whether the feds agree or not.
- amanaplanacanal 2y agoI’m really not sure what the word “right” means in this case. Normally I would think it means you can do something without punishment, but that doesn’t seem to be the case here.
- anon291 2y agoThe American constitution acknowledges that your rights exist independent of the law, and still exist, even if the government refuses to acknowledge them by punishing you for them. The American constitution is based on the assumption that rights derive from a higher authority that it cannot regulate. This is the sense I'm using it in.
- mrgoldenbrown 2y agoThe Constitution itself doesn't grant corporations any rights. Amazon the corporation is the one being "punished" here, not an individual.
- anon291 2y agoCorporations are free associations of people, which are protected by the first amendment. Your rights don't end the moment you slap a new name on something. Do you actually contend that the first amendment only allows individuals to speak and not groups of individuals? That the right to speak disappears the moment one finds a friend with whom you collaborate? Also, the entire verbiage is incorrect. The Constitution grants no human right. It prevents the American government from interfering with natural rights. Assembly and speech are natural rights. Corporations have rights because they are free groups of people, who all have natural rights. THose don't disappear the moment they band together. Quite the opposite, as I'm sure you know from our shared support for unions.