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People have been landlords and tenants long enough for every facet to have been explored. The whole surface area of the problem is composed of a multitude of as
by michaelmrose 2y ago
People have been landlords and tenants long enough for every facet to have been explored. The whole surface area of the problem is composed of a multitude of aspects that pretty much only work consistently when rules are externally imposed upon actors. Wherein such restrictions are pervasive and enforced they become internalized by all actors and normalized.
If you want to fix a current issue in your state for instance if a substantial portion of your state's tenants are getting their deposits stolen. Say 10% of 200,000 landlords are doing wrong by their tenants.
You can either convince 100 or so lawmakers who have no stake in it and a handful of judges to enforce treble damages against a relative handful until flying straight becomes culturally normalized OR you you try to somehow have a discussion with hundreds of thousands of people with their flag firmly planted on one side and see if you can convince the worst 10% of them not to fuck people over.
Discussion is like the living coral on the outside of the reef its built on the bones of rules and enforcement. People are on average not very good, very motivated, or very intelligent. You don't rely on their goodwill for much beyond navigating and following existing rules and building on on them and you normally build on them by creating new rules not hoping people on the ground spontaneously come up with useful improvements against their own interests.
It's weird to suppose that something nebulous like overall good will and functionality is anything but a conglomeration of all the tiny little aspects which individually provably only work with adult supervision. Hell pick an aspect and compare a US state that regulates some aspect of the landlord tenant relationship with one that doesn't regulate it and not shockingly that its not JUST the state in question that is better or worse it will be better or worse in respect to the matter so regulated.
You can't manage relationships with that much obvious power imbalance via negotiation.
- mlyle 2y ago> until flying straight becomes culturally normalized c.f. "Of course, systems that make it easier and safer for people to be decent would be good, towards that end." I think that's what's been being discussed here: the system itself can change what equilibrium/expected behaviors are. Right now we have a system that often incents extreme behavior on both sides to preemptively protect interests. > You can't manage relationships with that much obvious power imbalance via negotiation. I don't think anyone in this thread has claimed so. I think you're responding to something entirely different than what was actually said.