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I tend to agree, and you can kind of see the creep of “seriousness” increase over the years in popular media (characterized by dark/edgy/gritty/“realistic” tone

I tend to agree, and you can kind of see the creep of “seriousness” increase over the years in popular media (characterized by dark/edgy/gritty/“realistic” tones), with the Nolan Batman films being something of an inflection point. Compare the TV and movies from the past 15 or so years to that of the mid-late 90s and early 00s and there’s a stark contrast, with the older media having more of a tendency toward being colorful, optimistic, positive, fun, silly, campy, etc.

lesuorac 2y ago
Eh, I'm pretty sure the author is arguing about "seriousness" in a "professional" sense as opposed to a "large consequence" sense. I think the proliferation of "large consequence" has to do with lazy writing and if you have a bunch of people "save the world" now they need to one-up it so it becomes "save the star system". So when you have a ton of sequels being produced they need to keep getting larger and larger consequences for the plot line. However, on the lack of "professionalism" I think the author is spot on. Their initial example is that "Pumpkin Spice" contains no Pumpkin. Saying you're doing X while you'r e not doing X is very unprofessional (unserious).
- musicale 2y ago
  > "Pumpkin Spice" contains no Pumpkin. And "Baby Oil" contains no Baby. Usually.
  - scotty79 2y ago
    So it's a spice for pumpkins?
    - pvdoom 2y ago
      Interestingly enough, what survives as pumpkin spice today used to be an incredibly popular spice mix - powder douce - going back to the Middle Ages, and used on everything from apple pie, to roast meat, to wine. Mulled wine is basically pumpkin spice wine.
    - TheCoelacanth 2y ago
      Yes, it's the spice mix used in pumpkin pie and some other pumpkin dishes.
  - ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
    > And "Baby Oil" contains no Baby. Usually. And bathrooms don't usually have a bath
    - musicale 2y ago
      How am I supposed to rest in the restroom when people keep coming in and making noise?
- TheCoelacanth 2y ago
  Even save the star system seems to be too small now. There's now save the universe plots or even save the multiverse plots.

lesuorac 2y ago

Eh, I'm pretty sure the author is arguing about "seriousness" in a "professional" sense as opposed to a "large consequence" sense. I think the proliferation of "large consequence" has to do with lazy writing and if you have a bunch of people "save the world" now they need to one-up it so it becomes "save the star system". So when you have a ton of sequels being produced they need to keep getting larger and larger consequences for the plot line. However, on the lack of "professionalism" I think the author is spot on. Their initial example is that "Pumpkin Spice" contains no Pumpkin. Saying you're doing X while you'r e not doing X is very unprofessional (unserious).

musicale 2y ago
> "Pumpkin Spice" contains no Pumpkin. And "Baby Oil" contains no Baby. Usually.
- scotty79 2y ago
  So it's a spice for pumpkins?
  - pvdoom 2y ago
    Interestingly enough, what survives as pumpkin spice today used to be an incredibly popular spice mix - powder douce - going back to the Middle Ages, and used on everything from apple pie, to roast meat, to wine. Mulled wine is basically pumpkin spice wine.
  - TheCoelacanth 2y ago
    Yes, it's the spice mix used in pumpkin pie and some other pumpkin dishes.
- ndsipa_pomu 2y ago
  > And "Baby Oil" contains no Baby. Usually. And bathrooms don't usually have a bath
  - musicale 2y ago
    How am I supposed to rest in the restroom when people keep coming in and making noise?
TheCoelacanth 2y ago
Even save the star system seems to be too small now. There's now save the universe plots or even save the multiverse plots.