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Just because you drink deep of the Kool Aid doesn't mean the world matches the visions you have as a result. The first statement is so vague as to be meaningle

Just because you drink deep of the Kool Aid doesn't mean the world matches the visions you have as a result. The first statement is so vague as to be meaningless. What does it mean to promote freedom and democracy? How many milliDems are contained in each bomb you drop on Serbia, Iraq, or Gaza? Fended off Communism? Last I checked, China was a superpower, and the fact that the western media are heating up their hysterics means they are doing quite well. Stalinism was fended off by Stalin kicking the bucket. For most of his life he was a US ally.

testrun 2y ago
>>Stalin was a US ally<< Oh boy.
- riehwvfbk 2y ago
  My "man", next you'll tell me the USA won WW2 all by its lonesome, won't you?
resource_waste 2y ago
> How many milliDems are contained in each bomb you drop on Serbia, Iraq, or Gaza? Yes exactly. Without the US involvement, instead of getting democracies, you get ethnic squabbles or regional powers involved. You are just new to the anarchic nature of state-level politics. These conflicts are inevitable, its up to the United States to tilt them in the direction of human rights. Historically its true. (And its not like the morally poor side in Serbia, Iraq, or Gaza has the moral high ground when the US gets involved. ) Anyway, really cool hipster take that Europe and their 1000 year old ethnic rivalries would have navigated any of these better. Maybe for their own realpolitk self interest. How is that more moral than democracies?
- riehwvfbk 2y ago
  And that pure US hubris right there is the reason for your reputation around the world. You should travel more. These people you are "helping" hate. Your. Guts. But you might just remain convinced that you are just better because murica.
  - consumer451 2y ago
    I’m a huge critic of many US foreign policies. However, I cannot deny the realities of a postwar Pax Americana.
    - riehwvfbk 2y ago
      Hey, victors just always happen to be the good guys. It's an amazing coincidence.
      - consumer451 2y ago
        Sometimes having the ability to hold two conflicting ideas in one’s mind at the same moment is advantageous.

testrun 2y ago

>>Stalin was a US ally<< Oh boy.

riehwvfbk 2y ago
My "man", next you'll tell me the USA won WW2 all by its lonesome, won't you?

resource_waste 2y ago

> How many milliDems are contained in each bomb you drop on Serbia, Iraq, or Gaza? Yes exactly. Without the US involvement, instead of getting democracies, you get ethnic squabbles or regional powers involved. You are just new to the anarchic nature of state-level politics. These conflicts are inevitable, its up to the United States to tilt them in the direction of human rights. Historically its true. (And its not like the morally poor side in Serbia, Iraq, or Gaza has the moral high ground when the US gets involved. ) Anyway, really cool hipster take that Europe and their 1000 year old ethnic rivalries would have navigated any of these better. Maybe for their own realpolitk self interest. How is that more moral than democracies?

riehwvfbk 2y ago
And that pure US hubris right there is the reason for your reputation around the world. You should travel more. These people you are "helping" hate. Your. Guts. But you might just remain convinced that you are just better because murica.
- consumer451 2y ago
  I’m a huge critic of many US foreign policies. However, I cannot deny the realities of a postwar Pax Americana.
  - riehwvfbk 2y ago
    Hey, victors just always happen to be the good guys. It's an amazing coincidence.
    - consumer451 2y ago
      Sometimes having the ability to hold two conflicting ideas in one’s mind at the same moment is advantageous.