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See for yourself: https://www.memri.org/search-results?country_id_report%5B0%5D=0&country_id_clip%5B0%5D=0&country_id_jttm%5B0%5D=0&tv_station_id%5B305%5D=305&

See for yourself: https://www.memri.org/search-results?country_id_report%5B0%5D=0&country_id_clip%5B0%5D=0&country_id_jttm%5B0%5D=0&tv_station_id%5B305%5D=305&subject_id%5B0%5D=0&jttm_subject_id%5B0%5D=0&cjlab_category_id%5B0%5D=0&category_id%5B0%5D=0&cdate=0&custom_data_range_start=05/05/2024&custom_data_range_end=05/05/2024&order_type=0&order_style=0&keywords=&type=0&ia_number=&sd_number=&sa_number=&content_number=&author_id&content_type%5Bclip%5D=clip&current_site= https://www.memri.org/search-results?country_id_report%5B0%5...

pydry 2y ago
Those are interviews with Hamas spokespeople. It isnt the opinion of al Jazeera being presented. There's nothing more shocking than the stuff Ben Gvir (security minister of Israel) does or says. The second interview even references his calls to burn women and children as, yknow, a bad thing. "memri" doesnt seem to consider that valid context, that is probably because it is a state propaganda outfit acting on behalf of that same Israeli minister who openly expressed a desire to burn women and children.
- jdietrich 2y ago
  It's not an interview if a spokesman is allowed to say whatever they like without being challenged. It's not an interview if you broadcast a pre-recorded speech without comment. Ben Gvir is awful, but that doesn't change the fact that Al Jazeera's Arabic service is not impartial and is not acting as a legitimate journalistic outlet.
  - tdeck 2y ago
    > It's not an interview if a spokesman is allowed to say whatever they like without being challenged. This describes most interviews I've seen with Israeli government officials in the American press, although it's starting to change over the last few months.
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    99+% of interviews in American media aren't trying to challenge the interviewee. They're just trying to gather information from one side, and then they generally try to get a token representative quote from the other side at the very end of an article, but sometimes not even that. So you seem to be trying to hold Al Jazeera to a vastly higher standard than mainstream US media, at least in this particular regard. Simply reporting without comment on what important/influential individuals and groups are saying, and adding basic objective context, is a large part of mainstream journalism. Pushback is often limited to the opinion pages.
    - jdietrich 2y ago
      >So you seem to be trying to hold Al Jazeera to a vastly higher standard than mainstream US media, at least in this particular regard. The mainstream US news media would fall foul of broadcasting standards laws in a lot of liberal Western democracies. Here in the UK, due impartiality is a legal duty of news broadcasters. The First Amendment is not the norm globally and the US is exceptionally laissez-faire when it comes to the regulation of broadcast news. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code/section-five-due-impartiality-accuracy https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-co...
  - imperfect_light 2y ago
    Wait, impartial is the measure now? The most-read newspaper in Israel, Israel Hayom, is owned by a friend of Bibi. Is it impartial? Should it be shut down?
- candiodari 2y ago
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  - Ahmd72 2y ago
    This is not purposefully, Arabic is the main language of the people living in the regions, the Arabs. Just because they're catering to that out and giving news accordingly to the local demographics, bringing speakers from there doesn't make it their viewpoints. If you want to accuse someone of pushing agenda then Western media outlets and outlets that pushed the "40 babies beheading" stories is more factual.
    - candiodari 2y ago
      They're the same speakers. They just lie about their message in English.
      - acdha 2y ago
        You have made this assertion several times but without sources. Can you provide links to examples supporting this claim?
        candiodari 2y ago
        See my other post in this thread. Not sure how I link to a specific post.
  - crazygringo 2y ago
    Can you please provide links? It's hard for me to believe that your "Arabic" version is genuine. But if that's just me being naive, then I'd like to understand the truth, but I need actual evidence for that. So if there are genuine headlines like that on Al Jazeera, it should be trivial for you to provide a couple of representative links that we can run through Google Translate to verify?
    - rendall 2y ago
kats 2y ago
fyi, MEMRI is a media outlet literally founded and run by Israeli intelligence officers.
- dlubarov 2y ago
  That seems a bit misleading. According to Wikipedia, there were two founders, one of whom worked in the Intelligence Corps until 1988.

pydry 2y ago

Those are interviews with Hamas spokespeople. It isnt the opinion of al Jazeera being presented. There's nothing more shocking than the stuff Ben Gvir (security minister of Israel) does or says. The second interview even references his calls to burn women and children as, yknow, a bad thing. "memri" doesnt seem to consider that valid context, that is probably because it is a state propaganda outfit acting on behalf of that same Israeli minister who openly expressed a desire to burn women and children.

jdietrich 2y ago
It's not an interview if a spokesman is allowed to say whatever they like without being challenged. It's not an interview if you broadcast a pre-recorded speech without comment. Ben Gvir is awful, but that doesn't change the fact that Al Jazeera's Arabic service is not impartial and is not acting as a legitimate journalistic outlet.
- tdeck 2y ago
  > It's not an interview if a spokesman is allowed to say whatever they like without being challenged. This describes most interviews I've seen with Israeli government officials in the American press, although it's starting to change over the last few months.
- crazygringo 2y ago
  99+% of interviews in American media aren't trying to challenge the interviewee. They're just trying to gather information from one side, and then they generally try to get a token representative quote from the other side at the very end of an article, but sometimes not even that. So you seem to be trying to hold Al Jazeera to a vastly higher standard than mainstream US media, at least in this particular regard. Simply reporting without comment on what important/influential individuals and groups are saying, and adding basic objective context, is a large part of mainstream journalism. Pushback is often limited to the opinion pages.
  - jdietrich 2y ago
    >So you seem to be trying to hold Al Jazeera to a vastly higher standard than mainstream US media, at least in this particular regard. The mainstream US news media would fall foul of broadcasting standards laws in a lot of liberal Western democracies. Here in the UK, due impartiality is a legal duty of news broadcasters. The First Amendment is not the norm globally and the US is exceptionally laissez-faire when it comes to the regulation of broadcast news. https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-codes/broadcast-code/section-five-due-impartiality-accuracy https://www.ofcom.org.uk/tv-radio-and-on-demand/broadcast-co...
- imperfect_light 2y ago
  Wait, impartial is the measure now? The most-read newspaper in Israel, Israel Hayom, is owned by a friend of Bibi. Is it impartial? Should it be shut down?
candiodari 2y ago
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- Ahmd72 2y ago
  This is not purposefully, Arabic is the main language of the people living in the regions, the Arabs. Just because they're catering to that out and giving news accordingly to the local demographics, bringing speakers from there doesn't make it their viewpoints. If you want to accuse someone of pushing agenda then Western media outlets and outlets that pushed the "40 babies beheading" stories is more factual.
  - candiodari 2y ago
    They're the same speakers. They just lie about their message in English.
    - acdha 2y ago
      You have made this assertion several times but without sources. Can you provide links to examples supporting this claim?
      - candiodari 2y ago
        See my other post in this thread. Not sure how I link to a specific post.
- crazygringo 2y ago
  Can you please provide links? It's hard for me to believe that your "Arabic" version is genuine. But if that's just me being naive, then I'd like to understand the truth, but I need actual evidence for that. So if there are genuine headlines like that on Al Jazeera, it should be trivial for you to provide a couple of representative links that we can run through Google Translate to verify?
  - rendall 2y ago

kats 2y ago

fyi, MEMRI is a media outlet literally founded and run by Israeli intelligence officers.

dlubarov 2y ago
That seems a bit misleading. According to Wikipedia, there were two founders, one of whom worked in the Intelligence Corps until 1988.