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What differentiates this from other desktop environments?

BirAdam 2y ago
From what I saw in their video, there’s a top bar that on mouse-over expands and becomes a virtual desktop switcher with an arbitrary number of virtual desktops. Otherwise it appears to be a somewhat standard floating window setup. I didn’t see a menu, but my guess is that there is one or there’s some sort of rofi/dmenu work-alike or that it makes use of one of those.
- Gualdrapo 2y ago
  Kinda made me dizzy - animating the whole panel with all that stuff (clock, etc) can't be any good for accessibility, but no easy task to do a whole DE regardless.
  - vundercind 2y ago
    Oh man, you’re not kidding, watching those gifs made me reflexively long for the “reduce motion” settings toggle.
    - BirAdam 2y ago
      I really don’t like to put down the creative work of others, but yeah. The motion stuff made me realize just how great UIs like Win95 and early Mac System were. I love creativity and experimentation, but I dislike lots of motion, lots of animation, and especially stuff that moves under my cursor without me moving it.
rajishx 2y ago
It's a new one? I guess you are not the target audience of this Windows manager if you are not willing to give it a try and explore the features and the experience before rationalizing it's usefulness
- bruce511 2y ago
  While I'm sure -I'm- not the target market for a new Windows manager, it really is helpful to understand up front why a project exists. Sometimes it's a different feature set. Sometimes it's the same (or reduced) feature set or an emphasis on performance. Sometimes it's the side effect of using a new language. Sometimes it's just an exercise in learning. While these things are all completely valid (and more besides) the underlying reason is usually helpful when deciding if I am "willing to give it a try". Context matters, and it's helpful to understand if the developer's context is compatible with my context.
- lelanthran 2y ago
  > It's a new one? I guess you are not the target audience of this Windows manager if you are not willing to give it a try and explore the features and the experience before rationalizing it's usefulness To add some perspective, I am the target audience for a new Window Manager, but I'm still gonna need a goal or mission statement before I try it out. No need to be fancy, just use one of the following stock phrases: For people who like eye candy... A clutter-free, spartan environment Smart(er) tiling/stacking/workspace management Lean and fast Big with tons of value-added features Highly customisable "It Just Works(tm)" A (simpler|more complex) alternative to (Gnome|Plasma|Windowmaker|Xfce)[1] A (new|old|ancient) way to manage workflows Designed for (programmer|designer|gamer|salesman) productivity After all, creating a minimal Window Manager is about 2kLoC (in C). Someone who went to the effort to write maybe 20kLoC a) Ain't stupid or incompetent in the least and b) Must have had a good reason for doing so! Telling the world that reason can only help - the majority of us support new projects, we don't diss them for no reason (for that, we go to reddit :-)) [1] Yes, I know that some of those are desktop environments and some are window managers. No, I don't want to argue about the difference.
  - Beijinger 2y ago
    >Lean and fast Moksha Desktop....
  - drivingmenuts 2y ago
    I think your assumptions around points A and B are both potentially mistaken.
smartmic 2y ago
Found more about it here: https://vicr123.com/projects/thedesk/ https://vicr123.com/projects/thedesk/

From what I saw in their video, there’s a top bar that on mouse-over expands and becomes a virtual desktop switcher with an arbitrary number of virtual desktops. Otherwise it appears to be a somewhat standard floating window setup. I didn’t see a menu, but my guess is that there is one or there’s some sort of rofi/dmenu work-alike or that it makes use of one of those.

Gualdrapo 2y ago
Kinda made me dizzy - animating the whole panel with all that stuff (clock, etc) can't be any good for accessibility, but no easy task to do a whole DE regardless.
- vundercind 2y ago
  Oh man, you’re not kidding, watching those gifs made me reflexively long for the “reduce motion” settings toggle.
  - BirAdam 2y ago
    I really don’t like to put down the creative work of others, but yeah. The motion stuff made me realize just how great UIs like Win95 and early Mac System were. I love creativity and experimentation, but I dislike lots of motion, lots of animation, and especially stuff that moves under my cursor without me moving it.

rajishx 2y ago

It's a new one? I guess you are not the target audience of this Windows manager if you are not willing to give it a try and explore the features and the experience before rationalizing it's usefulness

bruce511 2y ago
While I'm sure -I'm- not the target market for a new Windows manager, it really is helpful to understand up front why a project exists. Sometimes it's a different feature set. Sometimes it's the same (or reduced) feature set or an emphasis on performance. Sometimes it's the side effect of using a new language. Sometimes it's just an exercise in learning. While these things are all completely valid (and more besides) the underlying reason is usually helpful when deciding if I am "willing to give it a try". Context matters, and it's helpful to understand if the developer's context is compatible with my context.
lelanthran 2y ago
> It's a new one? I guess you are not the target audience of this Windows manager if you are not willing to give it a try and explore the features and the experience before rationalizing it's usefulness To add some perspective, I am the target audience for a new Window Manager, but I'm still gonna need a goal or mission statement before I try it out. No need to be fancy, just use one of the following stock phrases: For people who like eye candy... A clutter-free, spartan environment Smart(er) tiling/stacking/workspace management Lean and fast Big with tons of value-added features Highly customisable "It Just Works(tm)" A (simpler|more complex) alternative to (Gnome|Plasma|Windowmaker|Xfce)[1] A (new|old|ancient) way to manage workflows Designed for (programmer|designer|gamer|salesman) productivity After all, creating a minimal Window Manager is about 2kLoC (in C). Someone who went to the effort to write maybe 20kLoC a) Ain't stupid or incompetent in the least and b) Must have had a good reason for doing so! Telling the world that reason can only help - the majority of us support new projects, we don't diss them for no reason (for that, we go to reddit :-)) [1] Yes, I know that some of those are desktop environments and some are window managers. No, I don't want to argue about the difference.
- Beijinger 2y ago
  >Lean and fast Moksha Desktop....
- drivingmenuts 2y ago
  I think your assumptions around points A and B are both potentially mistaken.

smartmic 2y ago

Found more about it here: https://vicr123.com/projects/thedesk/ https://vicr123.com/projects/thedesk/