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There are indeed restrictions on western foreign media. "Like all foreign news organizations operating in Israel, CNN’s Jerusalem bureau is subject to the rule

There are indeed restrictions on western foreign media. "Like all foreign news organizations operating in Israel, CNN’s Jerusalem bureau is subject to the rules of the Israel Defense Forces’s censor, which dictates subjects that are off-limits for news organizations to cover, and censors articles it deems unfit or unsafe to print. ... the military censor recently restricted eight subjects, including security cabinet meetings, information about hostages, and reporting on weapons captured by fighters in Gaza. In order to obtain a press pass in Israel, foreign reporters must sign a document agreeing to abide by the dictates of the censor." https://theintercept.com/2024/01/04/cnn-israel-gaza-idf-reporting/ https://theintercept.com/2024/01/04/cnn-israel-gaza-idf-repo... https://theintercept.com/2023/12/23/israel-military-idf-media-censor/ https://theintercept.com/2023/12/23/israel-military-idf-medi...

flumpcakes 2y ago
This seems reasonable to me? If a western press were outside missile factories saying "this is the only place our super missiles are built!" I would expect the department of defence to block that information from being published...
- SauciestGNU 2y ago
  That's unlawful in the United States, whose values Israel purportedly represents. It's called "prior restraint".
  - flumpcakes 2y ago
    Are you saying the United States would not block something being reported by the media? Because that is certainly false.
    - SauciestGNU 2y ago
      There is not legal mechanism for that to occur unless the writer is a government employee
    - mhuffman 2y ago
      My understanding is that they put a lot of pressure to block things and sometimes offer quid pro quo and sometimes even implant operatives in certain media positions, but legally they can't just come in and shut it down.
    - deleted 2y ago
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  - vundercind 2y ago
    It’s very much legal in wartime, for exactly those sorts of purposes. Though I’m not sure we’ve tested the legality of it in this modern world where nobody actually formally declares war anymore—I don’t think it’s been attempted. (Please don’t flame thinking I’m hardcore in support of a particular side in this war due to this post—you’ve very likely gotten the wrong impression. I’m commenting only on the narrow point that the US in fact can censor, including with prior restraint in certain circumstances, during war.)
    - everybodyknows 2y ago
      > during war The United States's last declaration of war was 83 years ago. Since then it's been all "police actions" or some such. What meaning does "during war" carry in the world of today?
- feedforward 2y ago
  Well the parent said there are no restrictions and there are restrictions.

flumpcakes 2y ago

This seems reasonable to me? If a western press were outside missile factories saying "this is the only place our super missiles are built!" I would expect the department of defence to block that information from being published...

SauciestGNU 2y ago
That's unlawful in the United States, whose values Israel purportedly represents. It's called "prior restraint".
- flumpcakes 2y ago
  Are you saying the United States would not block something being reported by the media? Because that is certainly false.
  - SauciestGNU 2y ago
    There is not legal mechanism for that to occur unless the writer is a government employee
  - mhuffman 2y ago
    My understanding is that they put a lot of pressure to block things and sometimes offer quid pro quo and sometimes even implant operatives in certain media positions, but legally they can't just come in and shut it down.
  - deleted 2y ago
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- vundercind 2y ago
  It’s very much legal in wartime, for exactly those sorts of purposes. Though I’m not sure we’ve tested the legality of it in this modern world where nobody actually formally declares war anymore—I don’t think it’s been attempted. (Please don’t flame thinking I’m hardcore in support of a particular side in this war due to this post—you’ve very likely gotten the wrong impression. I’m commenting only on the narrow point that the US in fact can censor, including with prior restraint in certain circumstances, during war.)
  - everybodyknows 2y ago
    > during war The United States's last declaration of war was 83 years ago. Since then it's been all "police actions" or some such. What meaning does "during war" carry in the world of today?
feedforward 2y ago
Well the parent said there are no restrictions and there are restrictions.