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It’s kinda funny reading this as an owner of a Tesla. People who don’t have them like yourself keep lamenting touchscreens online, whereas Tesla owners explicit

It’s kinda funny reading this as an owner of a Tesla. People who don’t have them like yourself keep lamenting touchscreens online, whereas Tesla owners explicitly stay with the brand because of how excellent it is compared to other vehicles, touchscreen or not. Technology Connections just posted a video where he explains how he had to hold his car’s ugly 90s era stalk for 4 seconds to change his wipers. Had to read a manual to discover that. This kind of crap is very standard in cars with disjoint components cobbled together. Meanwhile I get my live video sentry alerts on my phone, my car drives me to work, my gear selection is typically putting on a seatbelt and pressing the brake pedal as the car knows the right direction, everything important is contextually accessible via the wheels on the steering wheel instead of having 50 buttons for everything, and so on. It is simple and powerful. The problem with those luxury vehicles you mention is just awful execution.

JackSlateur 2y ago
I'm working on a r&d team dedicated to finding ways to repair modern cars at scale As such, we get lots of car, mostly EV (but not only), up to 100k€/u The Telsas are indeed not the worst They are still boring af and not in the top of the basket
wasteduniverse 2y ago
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AlexandrB 2y ago
As a Canadian driver, I'll take an ugly 90's era stalk over a touchscreen any day of the week. Teslas seem great if you live in California though.
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photonthug 2y ago
> my gear selection is typically putting on a seatbelt and pressing the brake pedal as the car knows the right direction What a hugely efficient time and energy saving innovation and only at the cost of lots of your money, personal safety, and basic human agency. Soon you can probably just hop in and without facing difficult decisions about where to go, get instantly taken to the biggest corporate partner or affiliate advertisers. Maybe robots there can invert you and shake you down so you don’t even need to pull out the money
- iknowstuff 2y ago
  Would you like a tinfoil hat?
SoftTalker 2y ago
Humans are good at adapting to the common operations of even the worst user interfaces and then they will stop thinking about how awkward they are. The iPhone is lauded as having a good UX. I think (even confining yourself to Apple's own apps) it's actually pretty inconsistent and a lot of things you "just have to know" because there are no cues that would lead you to discovery. But millions of people use them mindlessly because they have adapted to them.
- Suppafly 2y ago
  This. As an android user, I find iphones basically unusable because none of the common operations are presented in an obvious way. Granted android is pretty bad about this too since each manufacturer and carrier customizes things in a way that iphone users don't need to worry about, but a new user without experience in either would almost certainly have an easier time with an android device.
Repulsion9513 2y ago
> Technology Connections just posted a video where he explains how he had to hold his car’s ugly 90s era stalk for 4 seconds to change his wipers. Had to read a manual to discover that. This kind of crap is very standard in cars with disjoint components cobbled together. Yeah, he had to take a minute to pull the manual out of the glovebox, flip to the index, look under W, and then flip to another page. I guess he could have had to hunt through a bunch of different menus on a touchscreen instead? (BTW the fact that you're worried about a stalk being ugly - and the fact that you think they're from the 90s? - shows which type of consumer you are :)) > my car drives me to work Oh, so your Full Self Driving is actually fully self driving? Weird, I didn't think that existed.

JackSlateur 2y ago

I'm working on a r&d team dedicated to finding ways to repair modern cars at scale As such, we get lots of car, mostly EV (but not only), up to 100k€/u The Telsas are indeed not the worst They are still boring af and not in the top of the basket

wasteduniverse 2y ago

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AlexandrB 2y ago

As a Canadian driver, I'll take an ugly 90's era stalk over a touchscreen any day of the week. Teslas seem great if you live in California though.

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photonthug 2y ago

> my gear selection is typically putting on a seatbelt and pressing the brake pedal as the car knows the right direction What a hugely efficient time and energy saving innovation and only at the cost of lots of your money, personal safety, and basic human agency. Soon you can probably just hop in and without facing difficult decisions about where to go, get instantly taken to the biggest corporate partner or affiliate advertisers. Maybe robots there can invert you and shake you down so you don’t even need to pull out the money

iknowstuff 2y ago
Would you like a tinfoil hat?

SoftTalker 2y ago

Humans are good at adapting to the common operations of even the worst user interfaces and then they will stop thinking about how awkward they are. The iPhone is lauded as having a good UX. I think (even confining yourself to Apple's own apps) it's actually pretty inconsistent and a lot of things you "just have to know" because there are no cues that would lead you to discovery. But millions of people use them mindlessly because they have adapted to them.

Suppafly 2y ago
This. As an android user, I find iphones basically unusable because none of the common operations are presented in an obvious way. Granted android is pretty bad about this too since each manufacturer and carrier customizes things in a way that iphone users don't need to worry about, but a new user without experience in either would almost certainly have an easier time with an android device.

Repulsion9513 2y ago

> Technology Connections just posted a video where he explains how he had to hold his car’s ugly 90s era stalk for 4 seconds to change his wipers. Had to read a manual to discover that. This kind of crap is very standard in cars with disjoint components cobbled together. Yeah, he had to take a minute to pull the manual out of the glovebox, flip to the index, look under W, and then flip to another page. I guess he could have had to hunt through a bunch of different menus on a touchscreen instead? (BTW the fact that you're worried about a stalk being ugly - and the fact that you think they're from the 90s? - shows which type of consumer you are :)) > my car drives me to work Oh, so your Full Self Driving is actually fully self driving? Weird, I didn't think that existed.