Agreed. For all the talk of logic it seems like the root of disagreement is about a very basic logic problem. Problem solving skills != programming skills. In

Agreed. For all the talk of logic it seems like the root of disagreement is about a very basic logic problem. Problem solving skills != programming skills. In fact most of my problem solving skills are from learning to solve math problems and not from learning to program. * Not all problems are solved via programming. * Not all problems that can be solved via programming, should be solved via programming. * Not all problem solvers are programmers. * There are many ways to learn how to solve problems. One does not need to become a programmer to do so. I think programming is a pretty great skill to pickup in today's world. However I'm not ridiculous enough to suppose that the only way to succeed in solving problems is through code.