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> I don't understand why we cant have free flow of people between Norway and the US. Probably among other reasons is because this would have to be bi-direction

> I don't understand why we cant have free flow of people between Norway and the US. Probably among other reasons is because this would have to be bi-directional and the US has a lot of people and Norway doesn’t want those people coming there.

resource_waste 3y ago
That is interesting. Before I finished reading your post I was confused because immigration seems to be good. But if you are only getting Americans with no college education or 60k in debt with soft/useless degrees, I can see why they wouldn't want the drain.
- pokepim 3y ago
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- markdown 3y ago
  > But if you are only getting Americans with no college education or 60k in debt with soft/useless degrees Norway still needs people to collect the garbage, sweep the streets, drive cabs etc. Why do you dismiss low-skilled labour so easily?
- ericmay 3y ago
  I think the problem would be really fucking rich Americans moving or buying second homes in Norway and causing property values to 5x. Immigration in general isn’t a moral good or moral bad. It’s just public policy. At least in my view.
  - Gud 3y ago
    It would be both situations that would have large undesirable consequences (as well as a positive impact as well)
  - graemep 3y ago
    > I think the problem would be really fucking rich Americans moving or buying second homes in Norway and causing property values to 5x. We have that problem in the UK, especially London. Rich Russians, Chinese, and from just about everywhere else. If Norway does not make an exemption for rich people to come in if they want to, its very unusual. Generally, if you are rich, you can visit or live in anywhere you want. I can think of multiple cases where rich people with histories of serious crime or links to organised crime have no problem travelling to multiple countries.
- nozzlegear 3y ago
  Ah yes, the poor and huddled masses. Those useless ones. /s

resource_waste 3y ago

That is interesting. Before I finished reading your post I was confused because immigration seems to be good. But if you are only getting Americans with no college education or 60k in debt with soft/useless degrees, I can see why they wouldn't want the drain.

pokepim 3y ago
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markdown 3y ago
> But if you are only getting Americans with no college education or 60k in debt with soft/useless degrees Norway still needs people to collect the garbage, sweep the streets, drive cabs etc. Why do you dismiss low-skilled labour so easily?
ericmay 3y ago
I think the problem would be really fucking rich Americans moving or buying second homes in Norway and causing property values to 5x. Immigration in general isn’t a moral good or moral bad. It’s just public policy. At least in my view.
- Gud 3y ago
  It would be both situations that would have large undesirable consequences (as well as a positive impact as well)
- graemep 3y ago
  > I think the problem would be really fucking rich Americans moving or buying second homes in Norway and causing property values to 5x. We have that problem in the UK, especially London. Rich Russians, Chinese, and from just about everywhere else. If Norway does not make an exemption for rich people to come in if they want to, its very unusual. Generally, if you are rich, you can visit or live in anywhere you want. I can think of multiple cases where rich people with histories of serious crime or links to organised crime have no problem travelling to multiple countries.
nozzlegear 3y ago
Ah yes, the poor and huddled masses. Those useless ones. /s