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I can't find a public copy of the recent versions of BS7666. The 2006 version had zero instances of the word 'apostrophe' so not sure what they think they are r

I can't find a public copy of the recent versions of BS7666. The 2006 version had zero instances of the word 'apostrophe' so not sure what they think they are referencing. BS 7666: 2006 is based upon an International Standard ISO 19112 Spatial referencing by geographic identifiers.

chgs 3y ago
“The AGI now has a membership portal and it may be that the page you require sits within that portal. As a member you will be able to reach the page by logging in. If you are not yet a member of the AGI and are interested in joining please visit” If a standard isn’t publicly available under a free license it should not be called a standard.
- robjwells 3y ago
  While I agree with you, it's common that standards are not available without payment. For example, to get a copy of ISO 8601-1:2019 (as in, the date format standard!), it'll cost you $190. https://www.iso.org/standard/70907.html https://www.iso.org/standard/70907.html
  - mschuster91 3y ago
    Or, my personal gripe, ISO 7816 - your everyday smartcard standard. A full copy sets you back > 2k €. [1] https://www.vde-verlag.de/iec-normen/suchen/?publikationsnummer=7816&laenge=20&sortiert-nach=klassifikation&richtung=aufsteigend https://www.vde-verlag.de/iec-normen/suchen/?publikationsnum...
    - kwhitefoot 3y ago
      Also on Anna's Archive: https://annas-archive.org/md5/7957d8af6f296b3adaafd5c21d4aa323 https://annas-archive.org/md5/7957d8af6f296b3adaafd5c21d4aa3...
      - mschuster91 3y ago
        That's just Part 4 (and 13 is available there as well). The rest remains hidden, sadly - I assume that there aren't that many people willing to get Aaron Swartz'd.
  - kwhitefoot 3y ago
    Just get it from Anna's Archive https://annas-archive.org/md5/6b38669dbfb1042a40be0f804258fd88 https://annas-archive.org/md5/6b38669dbfb1042a40be0f804258fd... And upload anything you think is important enough to Library Genesis https://wiki.mhut.org/content:how_to_upload https://wiki.mhut.org/content:how_to_upload
zenlambda 3y ago
There are guidelines for street gazeteers here: https://www.agi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/BS7666GuidelinesSection5.pdf https://www.agi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/BS7666Guid... 4.4.1 Street names The designated street name is usually to be found on the name plate on the street. However, these may not always be correct, and may differ between the ends of the street. Unofficial street names are ones that have not been adopted by the appropriate Highways Authority but may be in common usage, e.g. "The Great North Road". Street names, whether designated or unofficial, should be recorded in full. Abbreviations and punctuation should not be used unless they appear in the designated name, e.g. "Dr Newton's Way". Only single spaces should be used. So I think all its saying gazetteer editors should not add punctuation if its “missing” from the designated place name. Punctuation is fine if it already part of the place name. I think the intention is to preserve the original place name. So the council is wrong to blame the specification.
- orra 3y ago
  Interesting! However the company which runs the official gazetteer has advice, and the reasoning is nonsense: >GeoPlace does not advise that councils include or remove punctuation in official naming or on the street name plate. Street naming and numbering is a council policy decision. >However, the Data Entry Conventions documentation does state that GeoPlace would prefer not receive data (including street names) with punctuation. >This is for two main reasons: > machine readability – punctuation can be misinterpreted by computers > usability – for example, if loaded into say an emergency service command and control system and a caller provides a street name, the search will be faster if the search is entered and returned without punctuation. https://www.geoplace.co.uk/street-naming-and-numbering/guidance-for-officers/street-naming-numbering-best-practice/apostrophes https://www.geoplace.co.uk/street-naming-and-numbering/guida...

chgs 3y ago

“The AGI now has a membership portal and it may be that the page you require sits within that portal. As a member you will be able to reach the page by logging in. If you are not yet a member of the AGI and are interested in joining please visit” If a standard isn’t publicly available under a free license it should not be called a standard.

robjwells 3y ago
While I agree with you, it's common that standards are not available without payment. For example, to get a copy of ISO 8601-1:2019 (as in, the date format standard!), it'll cost you $190. https://www.iso.org/standard/70907.html https://www.iso.org/standard/70907.html
- mschuster91 3y ago
  Or, my personal gripe, ISO 7816 - your everyday smartcard standard. A full copy sets you back > 2k €. [1] https://www.vde-verlag.de/iec-normen/suchen/?publikationsnummer=7816&laenge=20&sortiert-nach=klassifikation&richtung=aufsteigend https://www.vde-verlag.de/iec-normen/suchen/?publikationsnum...
  - kwhitefoot 3y ago
    Also on Anna's Archive: https://annas-archive.org/md5/7957d8af6f296b3adaafd5c21d4aa323 https://annas-archive.org/md5/7957d8af6f296b3adaafd5c21d4aa3...
    - mschuster91 3y ago
      That's just Part 4 (and 13 is available there as well). The rest remains hidden, sadly - I assume that there aren't that many people willing to get Aaron Swartz'd.
- kwhitefoot 3y ago
  Just get it from Anna's Archive https://annas-archive.org/md5/6b38669dbfb1042a40be0f804258fd88 https://annas-archive.org/md5/6b38669dbfb1042a40be0f804258fd... And upload anything you think is important enough to Library Genesis https://wiki.mhut.org/content:how_to_upload https://wiki.mhut.org/content:how_to_upload

zenlambda 3y ago

There are guidelines for street gazeteers here: https://www.agi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/BS7666GuidelinesSection5.pdf https://www.agi.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/BS7666Guid... 4.4.1 Street names The designated street name is usually to be found on the name plate on the street. However, these may not always be correct, and may differ between the ends of the street. Unofficial street names are ones that have not been adopted by the appropriate Highways Authority but may be in common usage, e.g. "The Great North Road". Street names, whether designated or unofficial, should be recorded in full. Abbreviations and punctuation should not be used unless they appear in the designated name, e.g. "Dr Newton's Way". Only single spaces should be used. So I think all its saying gazetteer editors should not add punctuation if its “missing” from the designated place name. Punctuation is fine if it already part of the place name. I think the intention is to preserve the original place name. So the council is wrong to blame the specification.

orra 3y ago
Interesting! However the company which runs the official gazetteer has advice, and the reasoning is nonsense: >GeoPlace does not advise that councils include or remove punctuation in official naming or on the street name plate. Street naming and numbering is a council policy decision. >However, the Data Entry Conventions documentation does state that GeoPlace would prefer not receive data (including street names) with punctuation. >This is for two main reasons: > machine readability – punctuation can be misinterpreted by computers > usability – for example, if loaded into say an emergency service command and control system and a caller provides a street name, the search will be faster if the search is entered and returned without punctuation. https://www.geoplace.co.uk/street-naming-and-numbering/guidance-for-officers/street-naming-numbering-best-practice/apostrophes https://www.geoplace.co.uk/street-naming-and-numbering/guida...