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To the countries that were doing the exploiting in South America, Africa and Asia as opposed to staying in a country being exploited by Russia? From countries
by mordae 2y ago
To the countries that were doing the exploiting in South America, Africa and Asia as opposed to staying in a country being exploited by Russia?
From countries that used secret service against it's own citizens to countries that used it to assassinate inconvenient democratically elected leaders of other countries?
And now, with the threat of "communism" (no, it wasn't one, because communism would have meant giving up state power), capitalism is slowly getting just as awful to the people in the core as it was to the people on the periphery.
The progress you so enjoy is the product of trade, truly. Across thousands of years. But best trade is free trade. One where nobody is coerced by police NOR implicitly by having choices stripped away from them by the capitalist ruling class that just wants to maintain it's position. People deep in debt, living from paycheck to paycheck, cannot make their choices freely.
Imagine running away from USSR only to have to send you kid there:
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/business/child-labor-meatpacking-plants.html https://www.nytimes.com/2022/11/11/business/child-labor-meat...
- CaptainFever 2y ago> And now, with the threat of "communism" (no, it wasn't one, because communism would have meant giving up state power) "Not real communism" If it's only viable in theory, as shown by many practical failures, it's not worth discussing at all. > The progress you so enjoy is the product of trade, truly. Across thousands of years. But best trade is free trade. One where nobody is coerced by police NOR implicitly by having choices stripped away from them by the capitalist ruling class that just wants to maintain it's position. People deep in debt, living from paycheck to paycheck, cannot make their choices freely. This sounds like you'd like welfare capitalism. Bur your comment conflates and gish-gallops so many things that it's impossible to have a conversation with you.
- p_l 2y ago> "Not real communism" Because the term has been perverted by both anti and pro crowds. Capitalism isn't equal to free market (arguably Adam Smith was first to give scathing rejection of capitalism) Communism isn't equal with state control and planned economy, no matter how much Imperial Russian traumatised politicians insisted on everyone.
- kolinko 2y agoWithout state control you cannot really have communism because poeple tend to develop their own markets then and it turns into libertarianism.