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What does "doesnt make it so" even mean here. If I experience pain, then I dont "actually" feel pain? I don't understand what youre saying.
by andoando 2y ago
What does "doesnt make it so" even mean here. If I experience pain, then I dont "actually" feel pain? I don't understand what youre saying.
- exe34 2y agoThat's the whole point of an illusion, yes. There are people who claim to have felt the presence of their own accidentally selected dirty or seen other creatures from their preferred mythology. Would you claim that their experience are genuine, that if they saw and felt the presence of mythical creatures, then these creatures must exist?
- andoando 2y agoI would say their experience of it certainly exists yes. No one is claiming these conscience experiments are material reality. It doesnt matter if you call them illusions or hallucinations. It's intriguing that they exist at all. If they simply did not exist there would be no discussion about this in the first place. I mean do you believe an LLM running is equivalent to you experiencing lucid dreams? Whats the difference? Do you think the difference is simply that I say it's different? That if I added some code for the LLM to say "Yes I really do experience lucid dreams", it would be equivalent to your experience of lucid dreams? Or is there something else, entirely unexplained happening from my experiences and a computer making rudimentary calculations to string words together?
- exe34 2y agoAn LLM thinks in text tokens. A lucid dream is more images and animations - so it'll be something more functionality equivalent to SOTA or DALL-E, but it's probably not diffusion itself. Yes, it exists as a phenomenon in nature, reported by most, if not all humans. It requires an explanation, but it might not have much to do with consciousness/self-awareness/intelligence or whatever you want to call it.