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Reminder that librapay exists, and their developers are only paid from user donations, just like anyone else on the platform. https://liberapay.com/ https://li

Reminder that librapay exists, and their developers are only paid from user donations, just like anyone else on the platform. https://liberapay.com/ https://liberapay.com/ (I only wish their CC costs could be reduced a bit to make micropayments viable)

internetter 2y ago
That's cool and all, but as the blog author I have a Liberapay account. It's provided me with $800, which is about $800 more than I expected to make. It has not provided me with an appropriate level of income for the effort I put into this site. Since instantiating my account, I've recieved 871,000 views on my website. That means I make $1.1 per 1000 views. That means that if, theoretically, I wanted to do this part time, I would need to be getting what... 50 times the amount I'm getting right now? If I wanted a wage of $20/h (that's not even a living wage where I live) for the time I've spent doing writing related things, I'd need something like 5-10x more? Asking people for money isn't working. Maybe I should offer ad slots to corporations? Daring Fireball somehow makes 500k a year just doing this. Except it hasn't worked: https://boehs.org/sponsor https://boehs.org/sponsor Is it the platform I use? Maybe people are scared of liberapay. So I try kofi — nothing. Maybe its because I'm not established? Maybe the Substack model works, where you aggressively push it on people. But I don't want to do that. I don't want to sell out. Maybe I publish my posts at LWN, which is paid and can offer $400 as a starting per article wage (I have 4 "possibly LWN eligible articles", so maybe with the pay scaling I'd get 3x more with the 2 week exclusive agreement?) But anyway, my point is that if you give something for free and then ask for their generosity, it won't make you a whole lotta money. That is fine I guess for my website, really, as its mostly writing about my curiosities. But it could be more. And the bountysource model makes sense, because you are no longer giving something for free. You are automatically a contractor of sorts. People pay you to do work.
- daghamm 2y ago
  You can see how much projects and developers make on librapay. It's up to a few hundreds a week. This is definitely not FU money, but maybe enough to keep them motivated or pay their computer expenses.

internetter 2y ago

That's cool and all, but as the blog author I have a Liberapay account. It's provided me with $800, which is about $800 more than I expected to make. It has not provided me with an appropriate level of income for the effort I put into this site. Since instantiating my account, I've recieved 871,000 views on my website. That means I make $1.1 per 1000 views. That means that if, theoretically, I wanted to do this part time, I would need to be getting what... 50 times the amount I'm getting right now? If I wanted a wage of $20/h (that's not even a living wage where I live) for the time I've spent doing writing related things, I'd need something like 5-10x more? Asking people for money isn't working. Maybe I should offer ad slots to corporations? Daring Fireball somehow makes 500k a year just doing this. Except it hasn't worked: https://boehs.org/sponsor https://boehs.org/sponsor Is it the platform I use? Maybe people are scared of liberapay. So I try kofi — nothing. Maybe its because I'm not established? Maybe the Substack model works, where you aggressively push it on people. But I don't want to do that. I don't want to sell out. Maybe I publish my posts at LWN, which is paid and can offer $400 as a starting per article wage (I have 4 "possibly LWN eligible articles", so maybe with the pay scaling I'd get 3x more with the 2 week exclusive agreement?) But anyway, my point is that if you give something for free and then ask for their generosity, it won't make you a whole lotta money. That is fine I guess for my website, really, as its mostly writing about my curiosities. But it could be more. And the bountysource model makes sense, because you are no longer giving something for free. You are automatically a contractor of sorts. People pay you to do work.

daghamm 2y ago
You can see how much projects and developers make on librapay. It's up to a few hundreds a week. This is definitely not FU money, but maybe enough to keep them motivated or pay their computer expenses.