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I thought this was going to be all Nintendo emulators, thankfully it is only yuzu (switch emulator) related.
by pipes 2y ago
I thought this was going to be all Nintendo emulators, thankfully it is only yuzu (switch emulator) related.
- langsoul-com 2y agoFor now, Nintendo won the lawsuit against Yuzu, on grounds of piracy. Given how most emulators can allow playing pirated games, the others might be next.
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- smrq 2y agoWell, no, it never went to court.
- SllX 2y agoRead up on Sony vs Connectix. This is basically FUD. Yuzu is cooked but that doesn’t mean all emulation of Nintendo consoles is. The Yuzu devs settled, and among the allegations in Nintendo’s filing was that they, the developers themselves, engaged in piracy.
- bonzini 2y agoProblem is that was before DMCA. New law can override judicial precedent.
- SllX 2y agoFirst, no it wasn’t. Second, the DMCA has nothing in it that explicitly targets emulators. Now what some hardware makers have done is include some kind of cryptography and called it an anti-circumvention method, but that is a later phenomenon and the earlier attempts at this didn’t amount to much in most cases. Third, the Yuzu Devs brought the wrath of Nintendo of America down upon them through means other than merely writing an emulator, in particular they were likely engaged in actual piracy. They probably knew they were cooked and chose to settle rather than go to trial. So again, FUD. There’s been a lot of it everywhere on this specific topic, so quit spreading it around like so much manure to nurture Nintendo of America’s basic stance towards emulation. They can have their opinion, but it doesn’t overrule judicial precedent.
- bonzini 2y agoYou're right, I was confusing it with Sega v. Accolade.
- squigz 2y agoWe've been hearing that for decades, and we still out here emulating
- radicalbyte 2y agoThey're DMCA'ing code they have no right to DMCA - it was released under a permissive OSS license. Sure they own the copyright but they also gave everyone a license to distribute it. Adhering to these fraudulent DMCA requests endangers all of OSS.
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- TazeTSchnitzel 2y agoNintendo aren't using the DMCA takedown process for copyright-infringing material (the thing people normally mean by DMCA). They're sending letters to GitHub about how Yuzu is, in their view, a tool for circumvention of technological protection measures and therefore illegal in itself (under different provisions of the DMCA).
- xg15 2y agoVery good point. The whole "technical protection measures" clause is in my view the most atrocious part of the DMCA, more so than the actual copyright stuff - because this communicates that the state is not just ok with vendors using their devices against their own users but actively endorses and encourages it. This is basically the legal basis for Doctorow's "war on general computation".
- ekianjo 2y agoif we had a github-like system outside of the US, would Nintendo be able to do anything since the DMCA does not apply?
- Mindwipe 2y agoTo all intents and purposes every country in the world has an anti-circumvention provision since membership of TRIPS and the WTO requires you to have one. The US one is actually pretty toothless compared to many. You're effectively left with rogue states, who tend not be to very good hosting partners.
- squigz 2y agoWhy does that make a difference?