4 ms·

I'm not sure if you're implying that I'm making shit up by putting "people" in quotes, but here's at least a little evidence. [1] [2] [3] Otherwise it's been w

I'm not sure if you're implying that I'm making shit up by putting "people" in quotes, but here's at least a little evidence. [1] [2] [3] Otherwise it's been with in-person conversations and I didn't record them, there's a spectrum to how completely they suggest I allow AI. Everything else you said I more or less agree with. Obviously if someone wants to cheat they're going to do it, but I feel that until we restructure the job market to not take GPAs as seriously (which I think I'd probably be onboard with), we should at least have cursory efforts to try and minimize cheating. I'm not saying we have to have Fort Knox, just basic deterrence. I'm not an adjunct anymore, partly because I took stuff way too personally and it was kind of depressing me, partly because it was time consuming without much pay, but largely because I realized that most universities are kind of a racket (particularly the textbook corporations are a special kind of evil). [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36089826 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36089826 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36087840 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36087840 [3] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36087501 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36087501

aaplok 3y ago
I wasn't implying anything. Because your use of the word "people" left the context very vague, I was just cautiously trying to not speak in your name when discussing the people who are pushing me to teach students how to use chatgpt. With respect to deterring teaching I totally agree that we should go for it. There are ways to mitigate the value of cheating and ways to promote the value of learning, both of which are deterrents. Personally I like having lots of small tasks that build and follow on one another. If the student is working and trying to learn it makes sense and we get to reinforce the high level skills that matter. If the student is cheating it should become increasingly harder to keep a consistent story. However if we turn this into a cop and robbers game that's what we're going to get. As for the focus on GPA I think that the tide is turning. Employers need to find an alternative that doesn't eat their time. And yes universities are rackets and aren't good value employers. They don't even offer job security anymore.

aaplok 3y ago

I wasn't implying anything. Because your use of the word "people" left the context very vague, I was just cautiously trying to not speak in your name when discussing the people who are pushing me to teach students how to use chatgpt. With respect to deterring teaching I totally agree that we should go for it. There are ways to mitigate the value of cheating and ways to promote the value of learning, both of which are deterrents. Personally I like having lots of small tasks that build and follow on one another. If the student is working and trying to learn it makes sense and we get to reinforce the high level skills that matter. If the student is cheating it should become increasingly harder to keep a consistent story. However if we turn this into a cop and robbers game that's what we're going to get. As for the focus on GPA I think that the tide is turning. Employers need to find an alternative that doesn't eat their time. And yes universities are rackets and aren't good value employers. They don't even offer job security anymore.