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You’ll pry my gas stove out of my dead cold hands.

CuriousCosmic 2y ago
NGL as someone who jumped ship from the gas camp to induction, Induction is really incredible just how much better it is. Everything about it is better with the exception of an annoying buzz from the induction on occasion. - My carbon steel pans get to temp basically instantly. - My cast iron gets to temp in a fraction of the time it took on my gas stove. - It also works fantastically on my stainless steel pots and tbh it feels like I can get a pot of water to boil in half the time. - Cleaning induction surfaces is way easier. - For "specialty stuff" like woks, curved induction is so much cheaper, more convenient, safer, and more approachable than the equivalent gas setups. This isn't me trying to suggest anyone should be forced to give up gas. It definitely has it's uses. However I really have to recommend trying out a nice, modern induction setup. They are like fucking magic.
- jemmyw 2y ago
  I assumed the parent comment was a joke considering the article subject
- bufferoverflow 2y ago
  You forgot the cost. Gas is much cheaper than electricity in most places.
  - Spartan-S63 2y ago
    That's true, unless you have local generation that produces electricity cheaper than the grid supplies to you (i.e. rooftop solar).
  - StanislavPetrov 2y ago
    Not just cheaper but more reliable. Here in New York I lose power several times a year - sometimes for multiple days at a time. In 5 decades I've never lost my gas.
    - bell-cot 2y ago
      +1, and the reliability point would be better as a top-level comment. Perhaps also noting the cost and environmental impacts of most stove-grade electrical backup systems.
      - flakeoil 2y ago
        > stove-grade electrical backup systems What the heck is that? Where in the western world can't you run an electric induction stove? And what would the environmental impacts of that be? Gas leaks and gas explosions is nothing I see as benefits. And en electric stove also have many benefits over gas such as automatically turning off, timer based shut off etc.
        bell-cot 2y ago
        >> stove-grade electrical backup systems > What the heck is that? Try searching for "UPS" on Amazon. How many of the search results would be capable of powering an electric stove (to cook meals) through a several-day electrical outage? If you looked at larger units (and generators) which were capable of doing that - what physical/electrical/safety issues would you face in actually connecting them to a typical residential stove? And once you're into the generators - those have their own fuel safety issues. > Where in the western world can't you run an electric induction stove? Anywhere that does not have electrical power available, during a power outage. Which the comment I was replying to very specifically pointed out.
        amluto 2y ago
        “UPS” is the wrong search term. Buying a “UPS” gets you 1990-era tech for cleanly powering down a computer if the power fails or riding through a brown-out. You’re looking for an off-grid system or a hybrid system or a portable power station. A company like Ecoflow will happily sell you one for $600 or so that will power a perfectly nice induction stove at full blast for half an hour. (You don’t need full blast for very long to cook most meals — this is good for quite a lot of cooking.) Throw in a single solar panel and a patch of sun and it will keep you cooking indefinitely. Impulse Labs would like to sell you a really nice 4-pan stove with a built in battery that will ride through a decently long outage.
  - com2kid 2y ago
    Induction stoves are almost 2x more efficient than gas stoves in regards to how much of the output energy ends up in the pot or pan. So unless gas is 1/2 the price of electricity where you are at, induction still wins! Oh and because gas puts approximately 50% of its heat into the environment and not the cookware, it can cause an increase in AC costs in the summer!
    - CaptainMarvel 2y ago
      In the UK, gas has been roughly a quarter of the cost of electricity for decades. I find it hard to believe given global markets that it is more than half of the cost in more than just a few extreme parts of the world.
    - imiric 2y ago
      > Oh and because gas puts approximately 50% of its heat into the environment and not the cookware, it can cause an increase in AC costs in the summer! Or a decrease in heating costs in the winter. :)
- switch007 2y ago
  Basically instantly? How do induction hobs defy the laws of physics? If the massive difference is the pan type, why isn't it almost instant with gas? Or do gas hobs output way way less energy than an induction hob? How many kilowatts is yours?
  - scotty79 2y ago
    > Basically instantly? How do induction hobs defy the laws of physics? They circumvent laws of heat transfer by pumping energy directly into the pan at the speed of light and creating heat right there.
  - kergonath 2y ago
    > Basically instantly? How do induction hobs defy the laws of physics? On an induction hob, the heat is generated by the pan itself. That’s the instant part. The pan itself heats more or less quickly depending mostly on its mass and what it’s made of. A gas hob is much less efficient in the way heat is transmitted to the pan: the flame irradiates everywhere, not only on the pan, and the air around the flame and the pan moves, carrying heat by convection. > If the massive difference is the pan type, why isn't it almost instant with gas? A steel pan heats quickly because it’s light and thin. A cast iron pan heats slowly because it’s thick and heavy (kind of material also plays a role, but steel and cast iron are not too different in that respect). > Or do gas hobs output way way less energy than an induction hob? Off the top of my head I think they are comparable. It’s just that most of this heat is wasted.
  - euroderf 2y ago
    Yes this is a great selling point for induction. You turn it to six, and hey presto in mere seconds it's HOT.
- searealist 2y ago
  Induction is notorious for warping carbon steel pans. It's supposed to be the worst option for them.
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NGL as someone who jumped ship from the gas camp to induction, Induction is really incredible just how much better it is. Everything about it is better with the exception of an annoying buzz from the induction on occasion. - My carbon steel pans get to temp basically instantly. - My cast iron gets to temp in a fraction of the time it took on my gas stove. - It also works fantastically on my stainless steel pots and tbh it feels like I can get a pot of water to boil in half the time. - Cleaning induction surfaces is way easier. - For "specialty stuff" like woks, curved induction is so much cheaper, more convenient, safer, and more approachable than the equivalent gas setups. This isn't me trying to suggest anyone should be forced to give up gas. It definitely has it's uses. However I really have to recommend trying out a nice, modern induction setup. They are like fucking magic.

jemmyw 2y ago
I assumed the parent comment was a joke considering the article subject
bufferoverflow 2y ago
You forgot the cost. Gas is much cheaper than electricity in most places.
- Spartan-S63 2y ago
  That's true, unless you have local generation that produces electricity cheaper than the grid supplies to you (i.e. rooftop solar).
- StanislavPetrov 2y ago
  Not just cheaper but more reliable. Here in New York I lose power several times a year - sometimes for multiple days at a time. In 5 decades I've never lost my gas.
  - bell-cot 2y ago
    +1, and the reliability point would be better as a top-level comment. Perhaps also noting the cost and environmental impacts of most stove-grade electrical backup systems.
    - flakeoil 2y ago
      > stove-grade electrical backup systems What the heck is that? Where in the western world can't you run an electric induction stove? And what would the environmental impacts of that be? Gas leaks and gas explosions is nothing I see as benefits. And en electric stove also have many benefits over gas such as automatically turning off, timer based shut off etc.
      - bell-cot 2y ago
        >> stove-grade electrical backup systems > What the heck is that? Try searching for "UPS" on Amazon. How many of the search results would be capable of powering an electric stove (to cook meals) through a several-day electrical outage? If you looked at larger units (and generators) which were capable of doing that - what physical/electrical/safety issues would you face in actually connecting them to a typical residential stove? And once you're into the generators - those have their own fuel safety issues. > Where in the western world can't you run an electric induction stove? Anywhere that does not have electrical power available, during a power outage. Which the comment I was replying to very specifically pointed out.
        amluto 2y ago
        “UPS” is the wrong search term. Buying a “UPS” gets you 1990-era tech for cleanly powering down a computer if the power fails or riding through a brown-out. You’re looking for an off-grid system or a hybrid system or a portable power station. A company like Ecoflow will happily sell you one for $600 or so that will power a perfectly nice induction stove at full blast for half an hour. (You don’t need full blast for very long to cook most meals — this is good for quite a lot of cooking.) Throw in a single solar panel and a patch of sun and it will keep you cooking indefinitely. Impulse Labs would like to sell you a really nice 4-pan stove with a built in battery that will ride through a decently long outage.
- com2kid 2y ago
  Induction stoves are almost 2x more efficient than gas stoves in regards to how much of the output energy ends up in the pot or pan. So unless gas is 1/2 the price of electricity where you are at, induction still wins! Oh and because gas puts approximately 50% of its heat into the environment and not the cookware, it can cause an increase in AC costs in the summer!
  - CaptainMarvel 2y ago
    In the UK, gas has been roughly a quarter of the cost of electricity for decades. I find it hard to believe given global markets that it is more than half of the cost in more than just a few extreme parts of the world.
  - imiric 2y ago
    > Oh and because gas puts approximately 50% of its heat into the environment and not the cookware, it can cause an increase in AC costs in the summer! Or a decrease in heating costs in the winter. :)
switch007 2y ago
Basically instantly? How do induction hobs defy the laws of physics? If the massive difference is the pan type, why isn't it almost instant with gas? Or do gas hobs output way way less energy than an induction hob? How many kilowatts is yours?
- scotty79 2y ago
  > Basically instantly? How do induction hobs defy the laws of physics? They circumvent laws of heat transfer by pumping energy directly into the pan at the speed of light and creating heat right there.
- kergonath 2y ago
  > Basically instantly? How do induction hobs defy the laws of physics? On an induction hob, the heat is generated by the pan itself. That’s the instant part. The pan itself heats more or less quickly depending mostly on its mass and what it’s made of. A gas hob is much less efficient in the way heat is transmitted to the pan: the flame irradiates everywhere, not only on the pan, and the air around the flame and the pan moves, carrying heat by convection. > If the massive difference is the pan type, why isn't it almost instant with gas? A steel pan heats quickly because it’s light and thin. A cast iron pan heats slowly because it’s thick and heavy (kind of material also plays a role, but steel and cast iron are not too different in that respect). > Or do gas hobs output way way less energy than an induction hob? Off the top of my head I think they are comparable. It’s just that most of this heat is wasted.
- euroderf 2y ago
  Yes this is a great selling point for induction. You turn it to six, and hey presto in mere seconds it's HOT.
searealist 2y ago
Induction is notorious for warping carbon steel pans. It's supposed to be the worst option for them.

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