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Here are four lecturers talking about being barred (as well as many students): https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/yokra13903890 https://www.ynet.co.il/news/art

Here are four lecturers talking about being barred (as well as many students): https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/yokra13903890 https://www.ynet.co.il/news/article/yokra13903890 None of them are Davidai and all of them look very dangerous (sarcasm). I've read what Davidai wrote and the claims that he's harassing seem ridiculous. He's trying to fight harassment from people who literally support terrorism and are hurting both sides of the conflict. NYU president Linda Mills said she received threats and even bomb threats: https://nyunews.com/news/2024/05/03/mills-email-paulson-center-arrests/ https://nyunews.com/news/2024/05/03/mills-email-paulson-cent... But US press doesn't write many of these stories because it doesn't fit the narrative of the publishers. Here's a Stanford student dressed as a Hamas terrorist just for the general picture: https://ynet-pic1.yit.co.il/cdn-cgi/image/f=auto,w=740,q=75/picserver5/crop_images/2024/05/03/ryIVsaffA/ryIVsaffA_0_48_1033_582_0_x-large.jpg https://ynet-pic1.yit.co.il/cdn-cgi/image/f=auto,w=740,q=75/...

racional 2y ago
Here are four lecturers talking about being barred That's not what the article says. Of the 4 academics, 1 of them (Hoftman) spoke of being assaulted after approaching the protests (just as protesters have been assaulted by folks from the pro-Israel side). Not of being "barred from entry" into the campus per your description: But also look at Israelis who want to enter the universities and can't. So far you are unable to substantiate this claim. But US press doesn't write many of these stories because it doesn't fit the narrative of the publishers. Of course it does - the Hoftman story was all over Fox News for example. It's viewers love to gobble up stories like these.
- invalidname 2y ago
  It's pretty interesting that you choose to ignore all the other supporting evidence of aggression I provided and focus only on a narrow claim. I have confirmation bias since I obviously have a side. A side that doesn't want his children stuck in a redundant war loop like we have been. Furthermore, you choose to accept unsubstantiated claims against Davidai as fact because it supports your confirmation bias. You want more here: https://edition.cnn.com/business/live-news/university-protests-palestine-04-29-24/h_dffc28a0d9a20e4c66a17c91c6704d64 https://edition.cnn.com/business/live-news/university-protes... > “Jewish students…get a second-class education where they are relegated to their homes to attend classes virtually and stripped of the opportunity to interact meaningfully with other students and faculty and sit for examinations with their peers,” the lawsuit said. “The segregation of Jewish students is a dangerous development that can quickly escalate into more severe acts of violence and discrimination.” and: > The lawsuit alleges that a subset of protesters has committed acts of violence, harassed Jewish students and faculty and incited hate speech and acts of violence. There's plenty of that online. Finally, about your point of two sides. That's absolute nonsense. One side started the demonstrations and mass agitation, the reacting side can't be blamed. This is pretty typical of this entire situation, Israel gets attacked then blamed for response, results and its defense. Own it. People were violent and racist. Outside forces came in and manipulated students most of which are ridiculously ignorant about the situation. They were manipulated, in much of the same way as Trump voters are manipulated, to believe blatant lies.
  - DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
    > Jewish students…get a second-class education where they are relegated to their homes Jews are taking part in the pro-Palestinian protests in large numbers. The idea that Jewish students are treated as second-class citizens at Columbia, in New York City, is simply absurd.
  - racional 2y ago
    The point is, you seem to be in the habit of making stuff up. In regard to specific events you allege to have happened. And when someone challenges you to provide some kind substantiation for what you're saying, you change the subject. Own it.
    - invalidname 2y ago
      I provided multiple links confirming everything I said in the thread here and other threads. I provided a link to the president of the university receiving threats and even bomb threats. You choose not to accept the possibility that you MIGHT be wrong. You're choosing to assume that your side, a side that is literally on the same side as a mass murdering terror group, is somehow 100% peaceful. A side that has been infiltrated by outside forces in large amounts and professional agitators. A side that is filled with young students who are deeply ignorant of the subject matter. A side that literally broke into offices and barricaded themselves. I have a confirmation bias. Yes, I know Israel has been far from perfect on many aspects. I 100% own it. I suggest you own it too. Also, again. Nitpicking is sad. You're using it to keep your confirmation bias. Clinging to one thing in the hope of finding a tiny mistake in my arguments that you can use to invalidate everything I said. That's much easier than looking into the mirror and acknowledging that you might not know much about the situation and you might be doing harm to your cause.
      - racional 2y ago
        Except those links don't substantiate the factual claims you're trying to make. And when you people draw attention to this, you say they're "nitpicking". And then you switch to entirely different topics and give people links to those topics. I don't see what this strategy brings you.

racional 2y ago

Here are four lecturers talking about being barred That's not what the article says. Of the 4 academics, 1 of them (Hoftman) spoke of being assaulted after approaching the protests (just as protesters have been assaulted by folks from the pro-Israel side). Not of being "barred from entry" into the campus per your description: But also look at Israelis who want to enter the universities and can't. So far you are unable to substantiate this claim. But US press doesn't write many of these stories because it doesn't fit the narrative of the publishers. Of course it does - the Hoftman story was all over Fox News for example. It's viewers love to gobble up stories like these.

invalidname 2y ago
It's pretty interesting that you choose to ignore all the other supporting evidence of aggression I provided and focus only on a narrow claim. I have confirmation bias since I obviously have a side. A side that doesn't want his children stuck in a redundant war loop like we have been. Furthermore, you choose to accept unsubstantiated claims against Davidai as fact because it supports your confirmation bias. You want more here: https://edition.cnn.com/business/live-news/university-protests-palestine-04-29-24/h_dffc28a0d9a20e4c66a17c91c6704d64 https://edition.cnn.com/business/live-news/university-protes... > “Jewish students…get a second-class education where they are relegated to their homes to attend classes virtually and stripped of the opportunity to interact meaningfully with other students and faculty and sit for examinations with their peers,” the lawsuit said. “The segregation of Jewish students is a dangerous development that can quickly escalate into more severe acts of violence and discrimination.” and: > The lawsuit alleges that a subset of protesters has committed acts of violence, harassed Jewish students and faculty and incited hate speech and acts of violence. There's plenty of that online. Finally, about your point of two sides. That's absolute nonsense. One side started the demonstrations and mass agitation, the reacting side can't be blamed. This is pretty typical of this entire situation, Israel gets attacked then blamed for response, results and its defense. Own it. People were violent and racist. Outside forces came in and manipulated students most of which are ridiculously ignorant about the situation. They were manipulated, in much of the same way as Trump voters are manipulated, to believe blatant lies.
- DiogenesKynikos 2y ago
  > Jewish students…get a second-class education where they are relegated to their homes Jews are taking part in the pro-Palestinian protests in large numbers. The idea that Jewish students are treated as second-class citizens at Columbia, in New York City, is simply absurd.
- racional 2y ago
  The point is, you seem to be in the habit of making stuff up. In regard to specific events you allege to have happened. And when someone challenges you to provide some kind substantiation for what you're saying, you change the subject. Own it.
  - invalidname 2y ago
    I provided multiple links confirming everything I said in the thread here and other threads. I provided a link to the president of the university receiving threats and even bomb threats. You choose not to accept the possibility that you MIGHT be wrong. You're choosing to assume that your side, a side that is literally on the same side as a mass murdering terror group, is somehow 100% peaceful. A side that has been infiltrated by outside forces in large amounts and professional agitators. A side that is filled with young students who are deeply ignorant of the subject matter. A side that literally broke into offices and barricaded themselves. I have a confirmation bias. Yes, I know Israel has been far from perfect on many aspects. I 100% own it. I suggest you own it too. Also, again. Nitpicking is sad. You're using it to keep your confirmation bias. Clinging to one thing in the hope of finding a tiny mistake in my arguments that you can use to invalidate everything I said. That's much easier than looking into the mirror and acknowledging that you might not know much about the situation and you might be doing harm to your cause.
    - racional 2y ago
      Except those links don't substantiate the factual claims you're trying to make. And when you people draw attention to this, you say they're "nitpicking". And then you switch to entirely different topics and give people links to those topics. I don't see what this strategy brings you.