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Do we all really need to devote our entire lives to following bullshit politics? Can't we just give some people we trust for now a little smite authority? The

by crusso 14y ago

Do we all really need to devote our entire lives to following bullshit politics? Can't we just give some people we trust for now a little smite authority? Then when they see government colluding with big business to take away our liberties they hit the big red button? In the meantime, is it really that evil for the rest of us to get back to our friends, families, hobbies, spiritual pursuits, and such? I say this as a person who spends his non-working time watching political news shows... but that's because it interests me. Seems a shame that the default economical/political/internet framework isn't one that gravitates toward liberty and eschews those who try to grab power over our lives.

Dirlewanger 14y ago
Maybe you're fine with other people dictating how you should think. I'm not.
- crusso 14y ago
  That's kind of inflammatory, don't you think? Giving someone temporary authority to act in your interests based upon opinions they've expressed and behavior they've exhibited is hardly allowing them to dictate what I think. We abdicate authority to people all the time: doctors, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, mechanics, weathermen, etc. Extending a reasonable amount of trust to those who devote all their time to a particular subject isn't allowing other people to dictate how you think.
pnathan 14y ago
"(s)elected representative" I believe is the traditional term here.
newman314 14y ago
Power corrupts. Sad but true.
smsm42 14y ago
If one doesn't want to follow politics, one should not complain that people who do follow politics beat you at it and make it according to their interests. Somehow people have no trouble following latest exploits of some Hollywood starlets, latest developments of TV soap operas or the intimate details of the careers of their favorite sports personality, but when it comes to things that directly influence their lives, their prosperity and their liberty - they don't want to know shit, just give them some red button and let somebody else decide when to push it, anything more is demanding too much. That doesn't work if you want to have liberties. Society of free men can not be built by only delegating your civic responsibilities to somebody else. Otherwise pretty soon it would turn out you are not free anymore but completely dependent on those to whom you delegated your responsibilities.
- crusso 14y ago
  > can not be built by only delegating your civic responsibilities to somebody else I'm not suggesting we "only" delegate our civic responsibilities. I'm saying that every citizen shouldn't have to make politics his life's study and sole devotion in order to not get screwed out of his liberties. Otherwise, our society's only point is to bicker endlessly about politics. What a sad society indeed.

by crusso 14y ago

Dirlewanger 14y ago

Maybe you're fine with other people dictating how you should think. I'm not.

crusso 14y ago
That's kind of inflammatory, don't you think? Giving someone temporary authority to act in your interests based upon opinions they've expressed and behavior they've exhibited is hardly allowing them to dictate what I think. We abdicate authority to people all the time: doctors, lawyers, plumbers, electricians, mechanics, weathermen, etc. Extending a reasonable amount of trust to those who devote all their time to a particular subject isn't allowing other people to dictate how you think.

pnathan 14y ago

"(s)elected representative" I believe is the traditional term here.

newman314 14y ago

Power corrupts. Sad but true.

smsm42 14y ago

If one doesn't want to follow politics, one should not complain that people who do follow politics beat you at it and make it according to their interests. Somehow people have no trouble following latest exploits of some Hollywood starlets, latest developments of TV soap operas or the intimate details of the careers of their favorite sports personality, but when it comes to things that directly influence their lives, their prosperity and their liberty - they don't want to know shit, just give them some red button and let somebody else decide when to push it, anything more is demanding too much. That doesn't work if you want to have liberties. Society of free men can not be built by only delegating your civic responsibilities to somebody else. Otherwise pretty soon it would turn out you are not free anymore but completely dependent on those to whom you delegated your responsibilities.

crusso 14y ago
> can not be built by only delegating your civic responsibilities to somebody else I'm not suggesting we "only" delegate our civic responsibilities. I'm saying that every citizen shouldn't have to make politics his life's study and sole devotion in order to not get screwed out of his liberties. Otherwise, our society's only point is to bicker endlessly about politics. What a sad society indeed.