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I don't view the creation of Russian Empire in a bad light - quite contrary, most other historical options would likely been worse, up and until 1917 at least.

I don't view the creation of Russian Empire in a bad light - quite contrary, most other historical options would likely been worse, up and until 1917 at least. And as a Russian I believe that Russian Empire is a part of essential legacy of the humankind. Same with USSR despite its tragic and cruel history. With the assumption that "imperialistic" policy is an inherently bad thing you should not be entitled to those seeds, which it seems you've stolen anyway. With regards to burning stuff to the ground, I'd like to hear the Syria story first.

kubb 2y ago
You think that the EU was doing rocket strikes in Syria? I understand that Russians need to have a story to claim that their aggression on their neighbors is justified. But how contrived the story is is baffling.
- thriftwy 2y ago
  EU was doing civil war in Syria, by astroturfing, endorsing, arming and financing "democratic opposition". It's not even the case of me doing the thinking.
  - kubb 2y ago
    I’m sure you’re not doing the thinking. You’re copying the line of the Russian regime uncritically. That cynical authoritarian regime which continues to have a country with a declining population, one of the largest wealth inequalities in the world, no human rights, assassinates political opposition whenever it feels like it and has an economy completely based on exploitation of natural resources. The proud and brave Russians have somehow decided that this regime is what they will fight for because its their best bet for advancing humanity. Meanwhile the EU bears the humanitarian cost of the Syrian civil war, because they’re interested in protecting human lives. But in Russia the human lives don’t have value. All that Russia cares about and understands is having a sphere of influence and power projection. Because Soviet Union was great once, and that felt good.
    - thriftwy 2y ago
      There are plenty bad regimes on the planet. Iraq is going to jail homosexuals for 12 years now. KSA didn't allow women to drive. Most of your answer applies to KSA 100%. It was you who turned Syria from autocracy into autocracy destroyed by a civil war. This was your crime. Why did you do that? You're like that sad disadvantaged teenager who planned to mug an annoying neighbour but ended up murdering him when he resisted, and suddenly became a felon for life. Whereas Russia didn't do anything wrong in this specific case.

kubb 2y ago

You think that the EU was doing rocket strikes in Syria? I understand that Russians need to have a story to claim that their aggression on their neighbors is justified. But how contrived the story is is baffling.

thriftwy 2y ago
EU was doing civil war in Syria, by astroturfing, endorsing, arming and financing "democratic opposition". It's not even the case of me doing the thinking.
- kubb 2y ago
  I’m sure you’re not doing the thinking. You’re copying the line of the Russian regime uncritically. That cynical authoritarian regime which continues to have a country with a declining population, one of the largest wealth inequalities in the world, no human rights, assassinates political opposition whenever it feels like it and has an economy completely based on exploitation of natural resources. The proud and brave Russians have somehow decided that this regime is what they will fight for because its their best bet for advancing humanity. Meanwhile the EU bears the humanitarian cost of the Syrian civil war, because they’re interested in protecting human lives. But in Russia the human lives don’t have value. All that Russia cares about and understands is having a sphere of influence and power projection. Because Soviet Union was great once, and that felt good.
  - thriftwy 2y ago
    There are plenty bad regimes on the planet. Iraq is going to jail homosexuals for 12 years now. KSA didn't allow women to drive. Most of your answer applies to KSA 100%. It was you who turned Syria from autocracy into autocracy destroyed by a civil war. This was your crime. Why did you do that? You're like that sad disadvantaged teenager who planned to mug an annoying neighbour but ended up murdering him when he resisted, and suddenly became a felon for life. Whereas Russia didn't do anything wrong in this specific case.