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Self-driving tech is really a bet auto manufacturers are making for the US market. Most of the developed world will move away from individual vehicles for anyt

Self-driving tech is really a bet auto manufacturers are making for the US market. Most of the developed world will move away from individual vehicles for anything besides the last mile in the next decades. Modern countries will have extensive train networks (already somewhat self-driving), but the US' faux-democracy does not allow for incumbent technologies like the automobile to be supplanted.

jajko 2y ago
This is such a pipe dream, your pipe must be heavily clogged at this point. I live in Switzerland, it doesn't get more developed re infrastructure on country level than this really. Car ownership ain't going away, train network is fine but a) ridiculously expensive and prices are raising each year; b) certainly not good enough for many many tasks, unless you like spending 2h in trains/buses instead of 30 mins in the car, sometimes there is just nothing. Yes you can arrange your life and simply experience less, but why the heck would anybody do that? Private car ownership is at all time high and not slowing down, there are visibly more and more cars on the roads every year. Self-driving may change that, once it comes. I estimate 2040 earliest en masse, musk poisoned that pond pretty badly with his lies and unfulfilled promises. It just became a no-topic for next decade and some.
zipping1549 2y ago
> Most of the developed world will move away from individual vehicles for anything besides the last mile in the next decades. I live in Seoul where despite its jokingly small size, people have car(s). We already have highspeed rails and everything. Cars are definitely not going anywhere unless specifically went against it by governemntal policies.
BaculumMeumEst 2y ago
Well thank God for that because I would rather not risk getting assaulted on the train, or ride with people shooting up and vaping, or experience it catching fire underground and breathing in enough smoke from an electrical fire to guarantee cancer, all of which happen regularly around here. Give me those robo taxis, baby.
- acdha 2y ago
  So you can get carjacked instead? I’d have thought watching so much local TV news would have informed you that leaving the house is unacceptably risky.
  - BaculumMeumEst 2y ago
    I don’t watch local news but I did take the metro to work for many years.
    - acdha 2y ago
      Me too, but never that risky. The worst it got was a drunk college girl throwing up on the way back from the bar.
- mavhc 2y ago
  Move to a first world country
  - Mountain_Skies 2y ago
    Glib and ironic since first world countries are the ones where these types of problems exist the most.
    - mavhc 2y ago
      The joke is your think your country is good, but it turns out it's terrible if those things are "happening regularly"
  - BaculumMeumEst 2y ago
    I would not trade my standard of living for better public transit.
thebruce87m 2y ago
I live next to a train station in Scotland. To travel to a big city near me 32 miles away and back would cost me £11.30 This would cost £1.92 in my EV (or £7.68 in my old diesel). It would also cost me £1.92 for my whole family in the same car, whereas the train fair would multiply. There’s a lot more to it than that of course but public transport is expensive.

jajko 2y ago

This is such a pipe dream, your pipe must be heavily clogged at this point. I live in Switzerland, it doesn't get more developed re infrastructure on country level than this really. Car ownership ain't going away, train network is fine but a) ridiculously expensive and prices are raising each year; b) certainly not good enough for many many tasks, unless you like spending 2h in trains/buses instead of 30 mins in the car, sometimes there is just nothing. Yes you can arrange your life and simply experience less, but why the heck would anybody do that? Private car ownership is at all time high and not slowing down, there are visibly more and more cars on the roads every year. Self-driving may change that, once it comes. I estimate 2040 earliest en masse, musk poisoned that pond pretty badly with his lies and unfulfilled promises. It just became a no-topic for next decade and some.

zipping1549 2y ago

> Most of the developed world will move away from individual vehicles for anything besides the last mile in the next decades. I live in Seoul where despite its jokingly small size, people have car(s). We already have highspeed rails and everything. Cars are definitely not going anywhere unless specifically went against it by governemntal policies.

BaculumMeumEst 2y ago

Well thank God for that because I would rather not risk getting assaulted on the train, or ride with people shooting up and vaping, or experience it catching fire underground and breathing in enough smoke from an electrical fire to guarantee cancer, all of which happen regularly around here. Give me those robo taxis, baby.

acdha 2y ago
So you can get carjacked instead? I’d have thought watching so much local TV news would have informed you that leaving the house is unacceptably risky.
- BaculumMeumEst 2y ago
  I don’t watch local news but I did take the metro to work for many years.
  - acdha 2y ago
    Me too, but never that risky. The worst it got was a drunk college girl throwing up on the way back from the bar.
mavhc 2y ago
Move to a first world country
- Mountain_Skies 2y ago
  Glib and ironic since first world countries are the ones where these types of problems exist the most.
  - mavhc 2y ago
    The joke is your think your country is good, but it turns out it's terrible if those things are "happening regularly"
- BaculumMeumEst 2y ago
  I would not trade my standard of living for better public transit.

thebruce87m 2y ago

I live next to a train station in Scotland. To travel to a big city near me 32 miles away and back would cost me £11.30 This would cost £1.92 in my EV (or £7.68 in my old diesel). It would also cost me £1.92 for my whole family in the same car, whereas the train fair would multiply. There’s a lot more to it than that of course but public transport is expensive.