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Carbon capture is so dumb. Just do the effective things like building out massive renewable energy generation like in China and India, phase out coal and oil, i
by dyauspitr 3y ago
Carbon capture is so dumb. Just do the effective things like building out massive renewable energy generation like in China and India, phase out coal and oil, improve/install heat pumps, top down changes to phase out the use of plastic and reuse more containers like milk, soda etc like we did in the past, make nuclear plants, come up with cheap, safe lab grown meat etc.
- yfw 3y agoLab grown meats are a boondoggle and will never happen at scale. https://josepheverettwil.substack.com/p/lab-meat-is-18-trillion-dollar-bullshit https://josepheverettwil.substack.com/p/lab-meat-is-18-trill...
- jabl 3y agoApparently the meat industry thinks otherwise, hence they're trying to push their poodles to outlaw it. With some success even: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68947766 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-68947766
- benzible 3y agoSee https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-scale/ https://thecounter.org/lab-grown-cultivated-meat-cost-at-sca... for a thorough exploration of why lab grown meat will never happen... > Humbird likened the process of researching the report to encountering an impenetrable “Wall of No”—his term for the barriers in thermodynamics, cell metabolism, bioreactor design, ingredient costs, facility construction, and other factors that will need to be overcome before cultivated protein can be produced cheaply enough to displace traditional meat. > “And it’s a fractal no,” he told me. “You see the big no, but every big no is made up of a hundred little nos.”
- llm_trw 3y agoI'm happy that they are wasting their money then.
- dyauspitr 3y agoIt’s growing cells, you can bet your ass it’s going to happen sooner or later. It’s also definitely going to be cheaper than raising a whole cow by a mile.
- yfw 3y agoBet. $100 if in 5 years you can get a lab grown steak in the supermarket for cheaper than cow steak. Growing tissues with vasculature is vastly different from cell cultures
- dyauspitr 3y agoIt doesn’t necessarily need to have vasculature for a lot of cases. Sausages, nuggets, bologna, any kind of processed meat like product. For steaks, the timeline is definitely longer than 5 years.
- llm_trw 3y agoBet. $10,000 you won't be able to buy one for the same cost as a regular stake. I'm happy to put my real name and money in an escrow account to the first person who wants to take the bet against me.
- coldpie 3y agoFive years is pretty aggressive, but I feel like 10-20 is realistic. Just in time for those fusion plants to be coming online ;) > in the supermarket for cheaper than cow steak OK, but only if we agree to include subsidies and externalized costs in the price.
- icodesoimgenius 3y ago[dead]