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Hold up, there is cheating tech that uses machine vision and hid inputs?! That’s hardcore. Sad they couldn’t put that talent to something like self driving…

by booi 2y ago

wlesieutre 2y ago
https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/07/cheat-maker-brags-of-computer-vision-auto-aim-that-works-on-any-game/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/07/cheat-maker-brags-of-...
pushedx 2y ago
This is an excellent mini documentary explaining the various techniques to avoid kernel level anti-cheat, including pre-boot EFI-based cheats, PCIe DMA sniffing, video over serial auto clickers, and the state of the art motion detection over streaming video with MITM USB host controller. https://youtu.be/RwzIq04vd0M https://youtu.be/RwzIq04vd0M
- newzisforsukas 2y ago
  I wonder how useful injecting subperceptual noise is in combating the CV approach
  - pushedx 2y ago
    Likely ineffective as the techniques involve compression of the input data and general purpose motion detection.
m3galinux 2y ago
Oh that's just the start of it. I recently learned there are cheating methods that use sniffing and live modification of system RAM via PCI Express DMA transfers. As usual, physical access to hardware trumps all.
Der_Einzige 2y ago
Yup. AI hacks are now the norm. They’re Pretty much undetectable too. I use aimmy for shooters, which amusingly claims it’s an accessibility app for the physically disabled. https://github.com/Babyhamsta/Aimmy https://github.com/Babyhamsta/Aimmy I love it because suddenly I can actually compete with the sweatlords who spend every waking moment optimizing their play. I don’t have time for that shit, but I want to have fun. Downvote away, but game cheating is subversive in the best way possible, and the haters can simply deal with it. I think it’s straight up good for society as it encourages a technological race to the top from others who want to stay competitive. There’s more value in learning how to cheat in a game with respect to learning about computers than there is in playing legitimately. Time spent getting good at a random video game is simply a waste of our precious limited lifespans. I argue we should legalize doping in sports too. Daniel tosh argued for this famously, pointing out that a bunch of roided beefcakes playing sports is far more entertaining for the average viewer since it improves the quality of play.
- pseudo0 2y ago
  > Aimmy was designed for Gamers who are at a severe disadvantage over normal gamers. > This includes but is not limited to: > - Gamers who are mentally challenged Hope it was worth your dignity. Seriously though, the whole point of ranked matchmaking is to give you a fair game with people who are similar in skill. If you compete without cheating, you will get matched up with other casual players instead of "sweatlords".
  - Der_Einzige 2y ago
    I hope every person who’s a victim of my AI hacks reacts at least as poorly as you do. The salt, rage, anger, etc of gamers is the funniest stuff ever. A major streamer, pchooly, is known for extreme gamer rage. https://youtu.be/h2ZZh3s2OPA?feature=shared https://youtu.be/h2ZZh3s2OPA?feature=shared I like to think that I’ve caused similar poor reactions from upset players.
    - pseudo0 2y ago
      What, with mild sarcasm? The description of the tool is hilarious. I just legitimately don't see the appeal. I installed a CoD aimbot way back when, and it just ruined the experience. There is no challenge or satisfaction in winning when it's the tool doing all the work.

Hold up, there is cheating tech that uses machine vision and hid inputs?! That’s hardcore. Sad they couldn’t put that talent to something like self driving…

by booi 2y ago

Hold up, there is cheating tech that uses machine vision and hid inputs?! That’s hardcore. Sad they couldn’t put that talent to something like self driving…

wlesieutre 2y ago

https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/07/cheat-maker-brags-of-computer-vision-auto-aim-that-works-on-any-game/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2021/07/cheat-maker-brags-of-...

pushedx 2y ago

This is an excellent mini documentary explaining the various techniques to avoid kernel level anti-cheat, including pre-boot EFI-based cheats, PCIe DMA sniffing, video over serial auto clickers, and the state of the art motion detection over streaming video with MITM USB host controller. https://youtu.be/RwzIq04vd0M https://youtu.be/RwzIq04vd0M

newzisforsukas 2y ago
I wonder how useful injecting subperceptual noise is in combating the CV approach
- pushedx 2y ago
  Likely ineffective as the techniques involve compression of the input data and general purpose motion detection.

m3galinux 2y ago

Oh that's just the start of it. I recently learned there are cheating methods that use sniffing and live modification of system RAM via PCI Express DMA transfers. As usual, physical access to hardware trumps all.

Der_Einzige 2y ago

Yup. AI hacks are now the norm. They’re Pretty much undetectable too. I use aimmy for shooters, which amusingly claims it’s an accessibility app for the physically disabled. https://github.com/Babyhamsta/Aimmy https://github.com/Babyhamsta/Aimmy I love it because suddenly I can actually compete with the sweatlords who spend every waking moment optimizing their play. I don’t have time for that shit, but I want to have fun. Downvote away, but game cheating is subversive in the best way possible, and the haters can simply deal with it. I think it’s straight up good for society as it encourages a technological race to the top from others who want to stay competitive. There’s more value in learning how to cheat in a game with respect to learning about computers than there is in playing legitimately. Time spent getting good at a random video game is simply a waste of our precious limited lifespans. I argue we should legalize doping in sports too. Daniel tosh argued for this famously, pointing out that a bunch of roided beefcakes playing sports is far more entertaining for the average viewer since it improves the quality of play.

pseudo0 2y ago
> Aimmy was designed for Gamers who are at a severe disadvantage over normal gamers. > This includes but is not limited to: > - Gamers who are mentally challenged Hope it was worth your dignity. Seriously though, the whole point of ranked matchmaking is to give you a fair game with people who are similar in skill. If you compete without cheating, you will get matched up with other casual players instead of "sweatlords".
- Der_Einzige 2y ago
  I hope every person who’s a victim of my AI hacks reacts at least as poorly as you do. The salt, rage, anger, etc of gamers is the funniest stuff ever. A major streamer, pchooly, is known for extreme gamer rage. https://youtu.be/h2ZZh3s2OPA?feature=shared https://youtu.be/h2ZZh3s2OPA?feature=shared I like to think that I’ve caused similar poor reactions from upset players.
  - pseudo0 2y ago
    What, with mild sarcasm? The description of the tool is hilarious. I just legitimately don't see the appeal. I installed a CoD aimbot way back when, and it just ruined the experience. There is no challenge or satisfaction in winning when it's the tool doing all the work.