4 ms·

Please please listen to people like tferris and fchollet: they might look like jerk and but that makes them an excellent people to listen. They will not say typ

by tlogan 14y ago

Please please listen to people like tferris and fchollet: they might look like jerk and but that makes them an excellent people to listen. They will not say typical crap which I see on HN: "congratulation", "great team", "very smart people", "the smartest people I ever met", "I think DDG is fantastic", ... Don't dismiss comments because they are not written like essays and they are negative. And here are my points: - DuckDuckGo is stupid name for search engine. - DuckDuckGo has the worst interface that any search engine in the market. - DuckDuckGo does not handle very well integration from different sources. For example, if for some reason your company does not have the exactly same twitter handle as a company name - DDG might just merge some other twitter handle with your search (the fact that company website links to 'twitter' handle for that company is kinda ignored - hey names are important). Amazingly Google search does it right.... - And of course, DuckDuckGo search sucks - at least it needs to have something to differentiate. - I really really want DDG to succeed. - My English sucks.

fghh45sdfhr3 14y ago
Subtle troll, is subtle. And of course, DuckDuckGo search sucks. Unless you describe how it sucks, this is just a personal opinion.
- sequoia 14y ago
  preface: I have ddg as my default search engine on all browsers on all computers I use and evangelize for them regularly. DuckDuckGo SERPs DO suck. If you've used the service much, I don't think this requires a more detailed description but since you're asking I'll try to be more specific: * The top links frequently link to content unrelated to what I'm looking for (Jasmine tea rather than the Jasmine testing framework e.g.). How google does this I don't know but rarely do they get it wrong in the same way * It frequently takes more time/clicks for me to find what I'm looking for searching on a generic DDG search than google. (of course bang searches mean I'm only sometimes using generic/plain search on DDG.) * The results on google are frequently just better. This is to say even if I find something that sort of answers my question on the list on DDG, there will be a better answer, higher, on google. Basically, if you are searching the name of a company or something unmistakably clear, ddg performs just as well as google, but when you get into longer queries on more obscure subjects, the gap in performance between ddg & ggl widens really fast. Is it clear what's meant by DDG results sucking? I don't think that's the nicest way to put it but as a long time DDG user I won't dispute the assertion.
  - JoeAltmaier 14y ago
    Could all that be explained by bubbling? DDG starts without any context so you have to do the spadework of distinguishing jasmine from Jasmine, every time. Both a feature and a curse.
    - sequoia 14y ago
      Not sure what you mean by bubbling. Are you referring to google's Evil Magic which does such a frustratingly good job of predict my intent? Yes, it is a double edged sword indeed.
billpatrianakos 14y ago
The thing about criticism, especially negative criticism, is that you actually shouldn't always listen to it. Everyone's got their complaints but not all criticism is created equal. You have to strike a balance between pleasing your customer and executing on your vision. Chasing down and fixing everyone's problems can be counterproductive. Sometimes I feel like people who create something are just a little too open to criticism. Its important to be able to filter out the irrelevant kind and focus on the kind that matters. I also feel like people who have criticisms often feel like they have a right to be heard. Not always. Some people criticize to feel important under the guise of trying to be helpful. Those people are the ones I ignore at all costs.

by tlogan 14y ago

fghh45sdfhr3 14y ago

Subtle troll, is subtle. And of course, DuckDuckGo search sucks. Unless you describe how it sucks, this is just a personal opinion.

sequoia 14y ago
preface: I have ddg as my default search engine on all browsers on all computers I use and evangelize for them regularly. DuckDuckGo SERPs DO suck. If you've used the service much, I don't think this requires a more detailed description but since you're asking I'll try to be more specific: * The top links frequently link to content unrelated to what I'm looking for (Jasmine tea rather than the Jasmine testing framework e.g.). How google does this I don't know but rarely do they get it wrong in the same way * It frequently takes more time/clicks for me to find what I'm looking for searching on a generic DDG search than google. (of course bang searches mean I'm only sometimes using generic/plain search on DDG.) * The results on google are frequently just better. This is to say even if I find something that sort of answers my question on the list on DDG, there will be a better answer, higher, on google. Basically, if you are searching the name of a company or something unmistakably clear, ddg performs just as well as google, but when you get into longer queries on more obscure subjects, the gap in performance between ddg & ggl widens really fast. Is it clear what's meant by DDG results sucking? I don't think that's the nicest way to put it but as a long time DDG user I won't dispute the assertion.
- JoeAltmaier 14y ago
  Could all that be explained by bubbling? DDG starts without any context so you have to do the spadework of distinguishing jasmine from Jasmine, every time. Both a feature and a curse.
  - sequoia 14y ago
    Not sure what you mean by bubbling. Are you referring to google's Evil Magic which does such a frustratingly good job of predict my intent? Yes, it is a double edged sword indeed.

billpatrianakos 14y ago

The thing about criticism, especially negative criticism, is that you actually shouldn't always listen to it. Everyone's got their complaints but not all criticism is created equal. You have to strike a balance between pleasing your customer and executing on your vision. Chasing down and fixing everyone's problems can be counterproductive. Sometimes I feel like people who create something are just a little too open to criticism. Its important to be able to filter out the irrelevant kind and focus on the kind that matters. I also feel like people who have criticisms often feel like they have a right to be heard. Not always. Some people criticize to feel important under the guise of trying to be helpful. Those people are the ones I ignore at all costs.