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Can someone give me the TL;DW? I don't have time to watch this right now

by donatj 3y ago

idl8t3 3y ago
- The creator received a letter from YouTube's legal team regarding the GRJ app, which they claim violates YouTube's terms of service. - The creator, representing Futo, responded by stating that the GRJ app does not use the YouTube API services and is therefore not subject to those terms of service. - The creator expresses frustration with how YouTube and other platforms often arbitrarily delete creator accounts and content, threatening people's livelihoods. - The creator sees the GRJ app as a solution to help creators connect with their audience even if their accounts are deleted from platforms. - The creator is critical of how the more users are willing to pay for content and software, the worse the experience and more abuse they face. - The creator shares a personal example of being unable to play downloaded YouTube content offline, despite paying for YouTube Premium. - The creator is done accepting the concept that the more one gives, the worse the treatment they receive in return. - The creator states they have the resources and intention to legally fight YouTube over the GRJ app, unlike "four kids in a college dorm room." - The creator emphasizes that Futo is a serious company, not just a hobby project, and is willing to spend significant money on legal representation. - The creator is committed to continuing to offer the GRJ app to serve their customers, despite YouTube's demands to cease and desist.
- rerdavies 3y ago
  Presumably, this app, by Futo: https://grayjay.app/#sources https://grayjay.app/#sources
  - 1oooqooq 3y ago
    they incorrectly (malicious?) claim "available on fdroid" and point to a way to add their custom repository. that's not cool. i would much prefer, since they are not two kids in a college dorm, they worked with fdroid to get properly vetted and included.
    - 4oo4 3y ago
      Having custom f-droid repositories isn't that unusual or necessarily malicious. For example the microG project has its own f-droid repo. iirc there's some overhead with getting something into f-droid since they have their own build process, versus just uploading an APK, which might be why they chose that. https://microg.org/download.html https://microg.org/download.html
      - simfree 3y ago
        Just look at how out of date NewPipe is in F-Droid, it's maintainer just isn't motivated to get new versions of the app building on F-Droid's servers, leaving end users with a half year out of date client that is unreliable to use.
        4oo4 3y ago
        Not sure what you mean, 0.27.0 was released on f-droid last week, same as the latest github tag: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
        simfree 2y ago
        Scroll down the page please and note the prior F-Droid release was Version 0.25.2 (994) - Added on Aug 10, 2023 All of the v26 releases are missing. F-Droid's maintainers just did not build or publish these, leaving F-Droid users with a broken app since early December 2023 until 2 weeks ago, basically 5 months of shipping an app that did not consistently work.

Can someone give me the TL;DW? I don't have time to watch this right now

by donatj 3y ago

Can someone give me the TL;DW? I don't have time to watch this right now

- The creator received a letter from YouTube's legal team regarding the GRJ app, which they claim violates YouTube's terms of service. - The creator, representing Futo, responded by stating that the GRJ app does not use the YouTube API services and is therefore not subject to those terms of service. - The creator expresses frustration with how YouTube and other platforms often arbitrarily delete creator accounts and content, threatening people's livelihoods. - The creator sees the GRJ app as a solution to help creators connect with their audience even if their accounts are deleted from platforms. - The creator is critical of how the more users are willing to pay for content and software, the worse the experience and more abuse they face. - The creator shares a personal example of being unable to play downloaded YouTube content offline, despite paying for YouTube Premium. - The creator is done accepting the concept that the more one gives, the worse the treatment they receive in return. - The creator states they have the resources and intention to legally fight YouTube over the GRJ app, unlike "four kids in a college dorm room." - The creator emphasizes that Futo is a serious company, not just a hobby project, and is willing to spend significant money on legal representation. - The creator is committed to continuing to offer the GRJ app to serve their customers, despite YouTube's demands to cease and desist.

rerdavies 3y ago
Presumably, this app, by Futo: https://grayjay.app/#sources https://grayjay.app/#sources
- 1oooqooq 3y ago
  they incorrectly (malicious?) claim "available on fdroid" and point to a way to add their custom repository. that's not cool. i would much prefer, since they are not two kids in a college dorm, they worked with fdroid to get properly vetted and included.
  - 4oo4 3y ago
    Having custom f-droid repositories isn't that unusual or necessarily malicious. For example the microG project has its own f-droid repo. iirc there's some overhead with getting something into f-droid since they have their own build process, versus just uploading an APK, which might be why they chose that. https://microg.org/download.html https://microg.org/download.html
    - simfree 3y ago
      Just look at how out of date NewPipe is in F-Droid, it's maintainer just isn't motivated to get new versions of the app building on F-Droid's servers, leaving end users with a half year out of date client that is unreliable to use.
      - 4oo4 3y ago
        Not sure what you mean, 0.27.0 was released on f-droid last week, same as the latest github tag: https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/ https://f-droid.org/en/packages/org.schabi.newpipe/
        simfree 2y ago
        Scroll down the page please and note the prior F-Droid release was Version 0.25.2 (994) - Added on Aug 10, 2023 All of the v26 releases are missing. F-Droid's maintainers just did not build or publish these, leaving F-Droid users with a broken app since early December 2023 until 2 weeks ago, basically 5 months of shipping an app that did not consistently work.