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>> There is nothing there to abuse, no "environment" to foul, no natives to exploit, nothing, not even bacteria. Don't forget that stuff in space affects other

by ttt_ 14y ago

>> There is nothing there to abuse, no "environment" to foul, no natives to exploit, nothing, not even bacteria. Don't forget that stuff in space affects other stuff in space. Let humans do as they please in the moon and they might affect a thin balance between the Earth and the Moon. Earthquakes on Earth can shift its axis[0]. Seeing as ehe Moon has approximately 1/4 Earth's diameter, 1/50 Earth's volume, and 1/80 Earth's mass, it is a much more fragile place than Earth and what's to say that an accidental explosion could not affect its orbit? The slighest change would probably affect tides in Earth. Even if that is not much plausible (I'm not an expert), what about simply extracting rocks to sell as moon suveneirs? That alone would ammount to change its mass > gravity > orbit. [0] - http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-12/world/japan.earthquake.tsunami.earth_1_tsunami-usgs-geophysicist-quake?_s=PM:WORLD http://articles.cnn.com/2011-03-12/world/japan.earthquake.ts...

nkoren 14y ago
Sigh. Some people have no grasp whatsoever of the insignificant scale of human activity in the context of planet-sized objects. For some perspective: Let's say we start extracting rocks from the moon. Let's say we get SO enthusiastic about this that our extraction of rocks from the moon becomes equivalent to the total amount of iron mined every year on Earth. That's a completely ridiculous thing to suppose, but let's roll with it. That's 2,400,000,000 tons of stuff removed from the moon every year. A big number, right? The mass of the moon, however, is 73,477,000,000,000,000,000 tons. So at this completely ridiculous rate of mining, it would take just over 306 MILLION YEARS to change the mass of the moon by even 1%. So, what would happen if we did change the mass of the moon by that much? Answer: basically nothing. The moon has been slowly spiralling away from the earth since its formation, meaning its gravitational effects are decreasing all the time, to no ill effect. 306 million years from now, it will have lost much more than 1% of its tidal influence on earth -- and nobody will be the wiser. It just doesn't matter that much. In short, he notion that the gravity of the moon could be upset by us mining for trinkets is as preposterous as the notion that my sneeze in London could collapse a skyscraper in Chicago.
- ttt_ 14y ago
  >> Some people have no grasp whatsoever of the insignificant scale of human activity in the context of planet-sized objects. Guess you're right. Thanks for the clarification.
- EwanG 14y ago
  Dateline - November 10, 2015 - In perhaps the most bizarre twist in the story detailing the strange hurricane that recently destroyed the Willis Tower (nee the Sears Tower) in Chicago, a scientist has used one of the new climate modeling systems to identify the sneeze that he claims pushed the chaotic drivers that caused Hurricane Zed to take such a strange course inland along the Great Lakes. Dr. Zimmat has been using the new Watson 2nd series in an attempt to untangle chaos theory to find the ultimate causes of major weather events, in the hopes of finding humanly affectable actions that could help to dampen the ever increasing number of Hurricanes. "I'm afraid I can't release the name of the individual," Dr. Zimmat explained, "however by using the network of cameras in downtown London and correlating with the time our models show an unusual movement of air, we can with 90%+ certainty say that a gentleman's sneeze in the wrong direction is ultimately to blame". Investigators for London Yard remain mute on whether any action is being taken, while inside sources state that it would be hard to prove anything more than unintentional manslaughter. US investigators, however, are working on a theory that members of Al Quaida may have planted a mole in London to execute the sneeze. 1/2 :-)
  - nkoren 14y ago
    Bloody hell - I've been sussed!

by ttt_ 14y ago

nkoren 14y ago

Sigh. Some people have no grasp whatsoever of the insignificant scale of human activity in the context of planet-sized objects. For some perspective: Let's say we start extracting rocks from the moon. Let's say we get SO enthusiastic about this that our extraction of rocks from the moon becomes equivalent to the total amount of iron mined every year on Earth. That's a completely ridiculous thing to suppose, but let's roll with it. That's 2,400,000,000 tons of stuff removed from the moon every year. A big number, right? The mass of the moon, however, is 73,477,000,000,000,000,000 tons. So at this completely ridiculous rate of mining, it would take just over 306 MILLION YEARS to change the mass of the moon by even 1%. So, what would happen if we did change the mass of the moon by that much? Answer: basically nothing. The moon has been slowly spiralling away from the earth since its formation, meaning its gravitational effects are decreasing all the time, to no ill effect. 306 million years from now, it will have lost much more than 1% of its tidal influence on earth -- and nobody will be the wiser. It just doesn't matter that much. In short, he notion that the gravity of the moon could be upset by us mining for trinkets is as preposterous as the notion that my sneeze in London could collapse a skyscraper in Chicago.

ttt_ 14y ago
>> Some people have no grasp whatsoever of the insignificant scale of human activity in the context of planet-sized objects. Guess you're right. Thanks for the clarification.
EwanG 14y ago
Dateline - November 10, 2015 - In perhaps the most bizarre twist in the story detailing the strange hurricane that recently destroyed the Willis Tower (nee the Sears Tower) in Chicago, a scientist has used one of the new climate modeling systems to identify the sneeze that he claims pushed the chaotic drivers that caused Hurricane Zed to take such a strange course inland along the Great Lakes. Dr. Zimmat has been using the new Watson 2nd series in an attempt to untangle chaos theory to find the ultimate causes of major weather events, in the hopes of finding humanly affectable actions that could help to dampen the ever increasing number of Hurricanes. "I'm afraid I can't release the name of the individual," Dr. Zimmat explained, "however by using the network of cameras in downtown London and correlating with the time our models show an unusual movement of air, we can with 90%+ certainty say that a gentleman's sneeze in the wrong direction is ultimately to blame". Investigators for London Yard remain mute on whether any action is being taken, while inside sources state that it would be hard to prove anything more than unintentional manslaughter. US investigators, however, are working on a theory that members of Al Quaida may have planted a mole in London to execute the sneeze. 1/2 :-)
- nkoren 14y ago
  Bloody hell - I've been sussed!