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YouTube music comes with ad free YouTube. I'm amazed Spotify is still around. You have Apple baking a music subscription into the OS.
by 999900000999 3y ago
YouTube music comes with ad free YouTube. I'm amazed Spotify is still around. You have Apple baking a music subscription into the OS.
- relyks 3y agoSpotify still has the best discovery features
- piva00 3y agoIf both of these options exist and Spotify still grows in subscribers each quarter probably it has the best product for a larger share of potential consumers? That's how some products exist even with competitors price dumping against them.
- neves 3y agoI just use Spotify for its network effect. My friends and sites all send links to Spotify. YTM is a lot better to allow you to upload your music. Deezer has a better algorithm
- ldayley 3y agoAs a part-time working musician I also wonder about this because they aren’t very artist-friendly, either. Their discovery-specific algos/UX are ok, but I think becoming the global de-facto music/audio-specific social network is their biggest moat. It’s been so tough to replicate that apple/google/amazon have yet to make much of a dent despite spotify’s actively hostile UX and practices. Edited to add: Music generes and fandoms have always been tribes and spotify was the first to capitalize on that aspect of music culture. Other companies approached their products in a “building a “digital CD-vinyl collection” kinda way, but there are few network effects in that.
- cj 3y agoServices like Spotify will probably be around forever unless there’s easy ways to migrate playlists and “loved/liked” songs between platforms. 1st world problems, but I’m paying for Apple Music since my running playlists are on there (Spotify didn’t support offline on Apple Watch at the time) and most of my other playlists are on Spotify. I’ll probably pay for both forever for lack of time to consolidate. Same with streaming services, sadly.
- ldayley 3y agoThere are web/mobile apps that can handle the playlist/“liked” songs migrations, but I don’t think they’re widely known.
- swyx 3y agoplaylists age. you'll be surprised how easy it is to build those things back up again on youtube. spotify's "moat" isnt as big as it thinks it is and i hope they get a sharp wakeup call.
- sedatk 3y agoThere are free online tools for migration.
- bravetraveler 3y agoI forget the service now, and I'm reluctant to advertise anyway, but it's fairly common for third parties to glue the APIs together. Deezer directly partnered with one of these services, but I found them independently beforehand
- piva00 3y agoThere are many services that allow migrating between music streaming services.
- stvltvs 3y agoDo they include audiobooks too? Spotify seems to have upped their audiobook game lately.
- fullshark 3y agoI find YouTube Music to be both better (larger library) and worse (less curation).
- 999900000999 3y agoI find music via other means, I go to tons of concerts, etc. Spotify was just first. But I think there's a lot of momentum here, most people don't like changing their habits after all.
- eddd-ddde 3y agoPretty sure it doesn't. I have a family YouTube music plan. If I want ad-free YouTube that's an extra payment for YouTube premium.
- bdcravens 3y agoI think they meant that YouTube Premium includes YouTube Music.
- 0x0000000 3y agoYouTube Music was better when it was Google Play Music, before they tried being a Spotify clone.
- pleb_nz 3y agoIt’s still a good option, maybe not the best. No ads on youtube in and off its self is worth it. Especially when you have kids and you don't want them blasted with every ad under the sun every few minutes.
- bdcravens 3y agoSpotify integrates well with Alexa, and "Alexa, play Immigrant Song" is a primary use case.
- sedatk 3y agoYoutube Music’s greatest strength is its greatest weakness: integration with Youtube. That means the videos you like become part of your music profile even if your reasons for liking them unrelated to the music. It messes up your profile quickly.
- Gigachad 3y agoI pay for YouTube premium and Spotify because YouTube music is just that bad.
- GaryNumanVevo 3y agoYouTube music has a lot of music that would never be able to put on Spotify. A lot of one-off punk albums from the 80s, DJ / house music sets, B-sides, live recordings etc.
- crtasm 3y agoIsn't all that just on regular Youtube..?
- gosub100 3y agoNot all the liked videos, just musical ones.
- distances 3y agoSpotify is still cheaper for two people with the Duo plan. Add the Jam functionality and shared playlists for social events (since about everyone has Spotify already). And then add stuff like a Linux desktop app with MPRIS command support and Spotify Connect for portable speakers. At that point I notice the Spotify moat is actually quite substantial in my use case and switching to another service is pretty much out of the question.