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I don't understand the focus on communism. The US healthcare system is rated well behind similar capitalist countries. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publica

I don't understand the focus on communism. The US healthcare system is rated well behind similar capitalist countries. https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2023/jan/us-health-care-global-perspective-2022 https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/issue-briefs/2... If socialized healthcare makes a country communist, then I'd argue exchanging capital for goods makes China capitalist. > The explanation is simple, really. Social groups... https://xkcd.com/592/ https://xkcd.com/592/

zeroCalories 3y ago
Did I ever say the U.S system is perfect? Do you think other countries have no problems? You people focusing on "people over profits" is literally communism, and is worthless. You're never going to get people to care about others beyond a superficial show of solidarity. That's why I said we need to align people's outcome to profit. Do you think that means an ancap healthcare system? And nice comic. I completely agree that your attempts to change human psychology will fail.
- itishappy 3y ago
  > Did I ever say the U.S system is perfect? Not explicitly, but I'm reading between the following lines: > That's why I said we need to align people's outcome to profit. Where do you think the US rates from a "focused on profit" perspective?
  - zeroCalories 3y ago
    Focusing on profits isn't the issue.
    - itishappy 3y ago
      Right, you said it's the solution. In your mind, what drives the measured disparity? What is the issue?
- taylodl 3y ago
  No one said other countries don't have problems with their healthcare, what has been said and is demonstrated with ample data is they're getting far better health outcomes for far less money. The 2nd half of Adam Smith's book was a treatise in all the different ways markets would fail. Adam Smith identified so many failure modes that the Founders thought Capitalism would never work (regardless of what the history revisionists now say). Healthcare is one of those verticals for which markets demonstrably don't work.

zeroCalories 3y ago

Did I ever say the U.S system is perfect? Do you think other countries have no problems? You people focusing on "people over profits" is literally communism, and is worthless. You're never going to get people to care about others beyond a superficial show of solidarity. That's why I said we need to align people's outcome to profit. Do you think that means an ancap healthcare system? And nice comic. I completely agree that your attempts to change human psychology will fail.

itishappy 3y ago
> Did I ever say the U.S system is perfect? Not explicitly, but I'm reading between the following lines: > That's why I said we need to align people's outcome to profit. Where do you think the US rates from a "focused on profit" perspective?
- zeroCalories 3y ago
  Focusing on profits isn't the issue.
  - itishappy 3y ago
    Right, you said it's the solution. In your mind, what drives the measured disparity? What is the issue?
taylodl 3y ago
No one said other countries don't have problems with their healthcare, what has been said and is demonstrated with ample data is they're getting far better health outcomes for far less money. The 2nd half of Adam Smith's book was a treatise in all the different ways markets would fail. Adam Smith identified so many failure modes that the Founders thought Capitalism would never work (regardless of what the history revisionists now say). Healthcare is one of those verticals for which markets demonstrably don't work.