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The first Boeing whistleblower to “off himself” allegedly told his family shortly before he died that if anything happened to him, “it’s not suicide.” https://

The first Boeing whistleblower to “off himself” allegedly told his family shortly before he died that if anything happened to him, “it’s not suicide.” https://www.newsweek.com/john-barnett-boeing-whistleblower-predicted-death-scandal-1879548 https://www.newsweek.com/john-barnett-boeing-whistleblower-p...

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FireBeyond 2y ago
Apropos of the context of this situation... As a paramedic, I'd take this with a grain of salt: I have been on calls for a non-trivial number of patients who've sworn black and blue that they're "no longer suicidal", "no longer a threat", "if anything happens to me, it wasn't suicide" who, you guessed it, went on to attempt or commit suicide in very short order.
sciolistse 2y ago
From what I've seen that's kind of overselling it, his own family hasn't claimed that he said that, an anonymous person who claimed to be a friend of his did. But I may have missed any further developments to actually verify that his family had been told something similar.
- zamadatix 2y ago
  Yeah, his family said "He was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks as a result of being subjected to the hostile work environment at Boeing which we believe led to his death". As much as a conspiracy for fear of being next could come into it I'd have to believe it'd be more than a lone and anonymous friend of the family that would speak out if confided with this info. Between that and the 30 some whistleblowers in the last 5 years that two died close to one another isn't all that damning. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-barnett-boeing-whistleblower-death/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-barnett-boeing-whistleblow...
  - simplicio 2y ago
    And in Barnett's case, he'd been talking since 2019. Even if one thinks Boeing would be willing to have people murdered, the time to do so would be before they became public whistleblowers, not a half-decade later.
    - codedokode 2y ago
      Maybe they were hoping he will give up himself due to bureaucracy.
- dralley 2y ago
  >But I may have missed any further developments to actually verify that his family had been told something similar. You have not, his family thinks he killed himself, but blames Boeing for making his life awful for several years.
- TylerE 2y ago
  An unarmed “family friend” who hadn’t spoken to him in over a decade. Total hearsay at best.

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FireBeyond 2y ago

Apropos of the context of this situation... As a paramedic, I'd take this with a grain of salt: I have been on calls for a non-trivial number of patients who've sworn black and blue that they're "no longer suicidal", "no longer a threat", "if anything happens to me, it wasn't suicide" who, you guessed it, went on to attempt or commit suicide in very short order.

sciolistse 2y ago

From what I've seen that's kind of overselling it, his own family hasn't claimed that he said that, an anonymous person who claimed to be a friend of his did. But I may have missed any further developments to actually verify that his family had been told something similar.

zamadatix 2y ago
Yeah, his family said "He was suffering from PTSD and anxiety attacks as a result of being subjected to the hostile work environment at Boeing which we believe led to his death". As much as a conspiracy for fear of being next could come into it I'd have to believe it'd be more than a lone and anonymous friend of the family that would speak out if confided with this info. Between that and the 30 some whistleblowers in the last 5 years that two died close to one another isn't all that damning. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-barnett-boeing-whistleblower-death/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-barnett-boeing-whistleblow...
- simplicio 2y ago
  And in Barnett's case, he'd been talking since 2019. Even if one thinks Boeing would be willing to have people murdered, the time to do so would be before they became public whistleblowers, not a half-decade later.
  - codedokode 2y ago
    Maybe they were hoping he will give up himself due to bureaucracy.
dralley 2y ago
>But I may have missed any further developments to actually verify that his family had been told something similar. You have not, his family thinks he killed himself, but blames Boeing for making his life awful for several years.
TylerE 2y ago
An unarmed “family friend” who hadn’t spoken to him in over a decade. Total hearsay at best.