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I have been an Opera user for many years and truly love this browser. Somehow I can't see myself using a piece of software that is controlled by Facebook - ever

by stfu 14y ago

I have been an Opera user for many years and truly love this browser. Somehow I can't see myself using a piece of software that is controlled by Facebook - ever.

deno 14y ago
The same could be said about Chrome. As long as there’s Operium to Google’s Chromium, I see absolutely no problem.
- stfu 14y ago
  Therefore they would have to go open source first. I have my doubts that Facebook would pay top dollar just to open source the software. On the other hand that might be a move to put the current user base in a merciful mood, as the userbase is probably the least likely aspect they are interested in for that takeover.
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  - deno 14y ago
    > I have my doubts that Facebook would pay top dollar just to open source the software. They wouldn’t buy it just to open source it. Facebook will buy Opera for its own strategic reasons, and they will open source it only because it’s the optimal model for them to develop this kind of project. They already open source bunch of stuff. They have the culture and the know-how.
    - SkyMarshal 14y ago
      > and they will open source it only because it’s the optimal model for them to develop this kind of project. Why would that be? Opera already has a very optimal closed source development model.
      - deno 14y ago
        Opera Software ASA’s product is Opera Web Browser. Facebook wouldn’t buy Opera to continue making money on licensing. And we know that Facebook uses Open Source model for developing things they don’t profit directly from[1]. It also makes everyone more easy about the privacy issues etc. The question really is, why wouldn’t they open source it? The have plenty to benefit from and nothing to lose. [1] https://developers.facebook.com/opensource/ https://developers.facebook.com/opensource/
        gcp 14y ago
        Facebook wouldn’t buy Opera to continue making money on licensing. Opera makes quite some money on advertising, by channeling traffic into Google.
    - SkyMarshal 14y ago
      > and they will open source it only because it’s the optimal model for them to develop this kind of project. Why would that be? Opera already has a very optimal closed source development model.
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skylan_q 14y ago
I believe I speak for every web surfer when I read this headline and say "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
bard 14y ago
I've used Opera for about ten years and have never wanted to switch. If Facebook bought it, though, I would drop it instantly. No guilt, either!
- tbundy 14y ago
  Interestingly I look at this news in almost the opposite way! I used Opera desktop for something like 10 years too. When I moved to Chrome (maybe 3 years ago?) I was like, "ah, this is what these websites are supposed to be like". I was actually quite sad to say goodbye and I still miss a lot of the features (sidebar!), but it always struck me that Opera was living in a bit of a dreamland where they just hoped the web was 100% standards compliant. Admirable, but unfortunately (in the short term at least) users suffered because so many sites just didn't quite work. This may have improved since I jumped ship. If a major company could give Opera the resources to catch up to Chrome in that area, then I'd be excited for the potential to create a comprehensively market leading browser.
  - excuse-me 14y ago
    Is that a problem anymore? I haven't really noticed any site that had serious issues in Opera (or chrome) - even my bank now works. The only site with any problems is my Outlook Web Access and that only works full in IE.
    - SCdF 14y ago
      In terms of Opera users not being allowed into sites: mostly just experimental "Look at what we can do with random vendor extensions we've decided to call HTML5 today". In terms of performance though, Opera has some weird issues. Try to go to theverge.com and scroll.. it's not pretty.
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by stfu 14y ago

I have been an Opera user for many years and truly love this browser. Somehow I can't see myself using a piece of software that is controlled by Facebook - ever.

deno 14y ago

The same could be said about Chrome. As long as there’s Operium to Google’s Chromium, I see absolutely no problem.

stfu 14y ago
Therefore they would have to go open source first. I have my doubts that Facebook would pay top dollar just to open source the software. On the other hand that might be a move to put the current user base in a merciful mood, as the userbase is probably the least likely aspect they are interested in for that takeover.
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- deno 14y ago
  > I have my doubts that Facebook would pay top dollar just to open source the software. They wouldn’t buy it just to open source it. Facebook will buy Opera for its own strategic reasons, and they will open source it only because it’s the optimal model for them to develop this kind of project. They already open source bunch of stuff. They have the culture and the know-how.
  - SkyMarshal 14y ago
    > and they will open source it only because it’s the optimal model for them to develop this kind of project. Why would that be? Opera already has a very optimal closed source development model.
    - deno 14y ago
      Opera Software ASA’s product is Opera Web Browser. Facebook wouldn’t buy Opera to continue making money on licensing. And we know that Facebook uses Open Source model for developing things they don’t profit directly from[1]. It also makes everyone more easy about the privacy issues etc. The question really is, why wouldn’t they open source it? The have plenty to benefit from and nothing to lose. [1] https://developers.facebook.com/opensource/ https://developers.facebook.com/opensource/
      - gcp 14y ago
        Facebook wouldn’t buy Opera to continue making money on licensing. Opera makes quite some money on advertising, by channeling traffic into Google.
  - SkyMarshal 14y ago
    > and they will open source it only because it’s the optimal model for them to develop this kind of project. Why would that be? Opera already has a very optimal closed source development model.
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skylan_q 14y ago

I believe I speak for every web surfer when I read this headline and say "NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

bard 14y ago

I've used Opera for about ten years and have never wanted to switch. If Facebook bought it, though, I would drop it instantly. No guilt, either!

tbundy 14y ago
Interestingly I look at this news in almost the opposite way! I used Opera desktop for something like 10 years too. When I moved to Chrome (maybe 3 years ago?) I was like, "ah, this is what these websites are supposed to be like". I was actually quite sad to say goodbye and I still miss a lot of the features (sidebar!), but it always struck me that Opera was living in a bit of a dreamland where they just hoped the web was 100% standards compliant. Admirable, but unfortunately (in the short term at least) users suffered because so many sites just didn't quite work. This may have improved since I jumped ship. If a major company could give Opera the resources to catch up to Chrome in that area, then I'd be excited for the potential to create a comprehensively market leading browser.
- excuse-me 14y ago
  Is that a problem anymore? I haven't really noticed any site that had serious issues in Opera (or chrome) - even my bank now works. The only site with any problems is my Outlook Web Access and that only works full in IE.
  - SCdF 14y ago
    In terms of Opera users not being allowed into sites: mostly just experimental "Look at what we can do with random vendor extensions we've decided to call HTML5 today". In terms of performance though, Opera has some weird issues. Try to go to theverge.com and scroll.. it's not pretty.

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