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Nope. There was a bunch of hype around `Suyu`, even in the news, before it was discovered the developer was a minor who had no idea what he was doing. No ratio

Nope. There was a bunch of hype around `Suyu`, even in the news, before it was discovered the developer was a minor who had no idea what he was doing. No rational person is going to fight a DMCA from Nintendo. Nintendo would in no circumstances not file a DMCA against a Yuzu fork. Additionally, the settlement required that all of the core developers, who would know it best, are never permitted to work on a Nintendo emulator ever again. Thus, Yuzu is completely dead.

jsheard 3y ago
Well, at least we still have Ryujinx. Citra getting caught in the Yuzu crossfire is worse because there isn't another mature 3DS emulator to fall back on.
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squigz 3y ago
These are the same devs who thought profiting tens of thousands off this project was a smart idea, right?
- gjsman-1000 3y ago
  The profit has nothing to do with it. Bleem! was profit driven by design, for example. (Bleem! is also irrelevant being decided before the DMCA provisions came into effect.) Is it a smart idea? No; but a profitable emulator should be just as legal as an unprofitable one. But where it involves breaking digital locks, as Nintendo may successfully demonstrate, the DMCA makes both illegal.
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  - squigz 3y ago
    I would say the risk of Nintendo - or, really, any company - caring about an emulator goes up with the amount of money the devs are making from it.
    - Clamchop 3y ago
      In this case, insult was further compounded because of a prerelease leak of a Legend of Zelda title _and_ charging for early access to an update to make it playable with Yuzu. That Yuzu reportedly has generally better performance than a Switch console couldn't have helped, either. Making money and credible potential to eat into sales. A less litigious company would still have complained.
      - deaddodo 3y ago
        > That Yuzu reportedly has generally better performance than a Switch console couldn't have helped, either. What does that even mean? I think you mean: "the fact that yuzu could be run on hardware that allowed it to perform better than a switch console". Emulation, by it's very nature, will always perform worse. But the underlying hardware could be significantly better.
      - boolemancer 3y ago
        > _and_ charging for early access to an update to make it playable with Yuzu. From my understanding, this part is not true (though it is widely touted). There were third parties that made the necessary fixes to run the game in their own forks, but Yuzu proper did not release any fixes until after the game came out, even in the pre-release versions.
  - Shawnj2 3y ago
    I think the bigger issue is that they were using a leaked copy of TOTK to develop their emulator and the Yuzu developers didn’t want that to come up in discovery so they settled

jsheard 3y ago

Well, at least we still have Ryujinx. Citra getting caught in the Yuzu crossfire is worse because there isn't another mature 3DS emulator to fall back on.

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squigz 3y ago

These are the same devs who thought profiting tens of thousands off this project was a smart idea, right?

gjsman-1000 3y ago
The profit has nothing to do with it. Bleem! was profit driven by design, for example. (Bleem! is also irrelevant being decided before the DMCA provisions came into effect.) Is it a smart idea? No; but a profitable emulator should be just as legal as an unprofitable one. But where it involves breaking digital locks, as Nintendo may successfully demonstrate, the DMCA makes both illegal.
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- squigz 3y ago
  I would say the risk of Nintendo - or, really, any company - caring about an emulator goes up with the amount of money the devs are making from it.
  - Clamchop 3y ago
    In this case, insult was further compounded because of a prerelease leak of a Legend of Zelda title _and_ charging for early access to an update to make it playable with Yuzu. That Yuzu reportedly has generally better performance than a Switch console couldn't have helped, either. Making money and credible potential to eat into sales. A less litigious company would still have complained.
    - deaddodo 3y ago
      > That Yuzu reportedly has generally better performance than a Switch console couldn't have helped, either. What does that even mean? I think you mean: "the fact that yuzu could be run on hardware that allowed it to perform better than a switch console". Emulation, by it's very nature, will always perform worse. But the underlying hardware could be significantly better.
    - boolemancer 3y ago
      > _and_ charging for early access to an update to make it playable with Yuzu. From my understanding, this part is not true (though it is widely touted). There were third parties that made the necessary fixes to run the game in their own forks, but Yuzu proper did not release any fixes until after the game came out, even in the pre-release versions.
- Shawnj2 3y ago
  I think the bigger issue is that they were using a leaked copy of TOTK to develop their emulator and the Yuzu developers didn’t want that to come up in discovery so they settled