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100%. This also bugs me: Why can’t websites set a cookie that stores whether I’ve consented to the cookie pop up? On some sites I have to keep consenting over a

by texuf 2y ago

100%. This also bugs me: Why can’t websites set a cookie that stores whether I’ve consented to the cookie pop up? On some sites I have to keep consenting over and over (IKEA comes to mind).

forgetfulness 2y ago
Stack Exchange is downright malicious in having you click it on each subdomain. No, I don't care that one user created the Math forum and another created the Sysadmin forum, it's all run by you Jeff, that's who I am engaging when clicking the popup, not MathFan1982
Sebb767 2y ago
This is mostly malicious compliance - the law does not require these annoying popups, but the websites want them to a) make you dislike the law that prevents them from freely collecting your data and b) wearing you down, so you just accept instead of making the effort to go and deny the data collection. Also, at this point it's probably also a lot of cargo culting.
- kayodelycaon 2y ago
  It's mostly ignorance now. Most people don't know the law and don't know how to comply with it. If the popup method hasn't been invalidated by a court, why spend more on time, energy, and risk doing something different?
  - burnished 2y ago
    Absolutely not. The people implementing know, and the people designing know. This represents intentionality.
  - bee_rider 2y ago
    Is there really much risk in just not tracking by default? I think ignorance is part of it, but also, they don’t actually want to do what users want them do to, which is just not track unless the user goes looking for options that actually require tracking at a technical level.
    - kayodelycaon 2y ago
      > Is there really much risk in just not tracking by default? Let’s see… I can’t even stop Marketing from breaking our site with Google Tag Manager. A significant portion of our sales come from the ability to track users and email them useful product recommendations. We do not sell customer data and try to avoid vendors who do. It’s only used internally.
klyrs 2y ago
I always assume that they'd stop asking if and only if you say yes to all -- is that not the case?

by texuf 2y ago

100%. This also bugs me: Why can’t websites set a cookie that stores whether I’ve consented to the cookie pop up? On some sites I have to keep consenting over and over (IKEA comes to mind).

forgetfulness 2y ago

Stack Exchange is downright malicious in having you click it on each subdomain. No, I don't care that one user created the Math forum and another created the Sysadmin forum, it's all run by you Jeff, that's who I am engaging when clicking the popup, not MathFan1982

Sebb767 2y ago

This is mostly malicious compliance - the law does not require these annoying popups, but the websites want them to a) make you dislike the law that prevents them from freely collecting your data and b) wearing you down, so you just accept instead of making the effort to go and deny the data collection. Also, at this point it's probably also a lot of cargo culting.

kayodelycaon 2y ago
It's mostly ignorance now. Most people don't know the law and don't know how to comply with it. If the popup method hasn't been invalidated by a court, why spend more on time, energy, and risk doing something different?
- burnished 2y ago
  Absolutely not. The people implementing know, and the people designing know. This represents intentionality.
- bee_rider 2y ago
  Is there really much risk in just not tracking by default? I think ignorance is part of it, but also, they don’t actually want to do what users want them do to, which is just not track unless the user goes looking for options that actually require tracking at a technical level.
  - kayodelycaon 2y ago
    > Is there really much risk in just not tracking by default? Let’s see… I can’t even stop Marketing from breaking our site with Google Tag Manager. A significant portion of our sales come from the ability to track users and email them useful product recommendations. We do not sell customer data and try to avoid vendors who do. It’s only used internally.

klyrs 2y ago

I always assume that they'd stop asking if and only if you say yes to all -- is that not the case?