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Without even touching how every other thing you said is wrong (esp. about it being accurate), how is "algorithm" more descriptive than "artificial intelligence"

by cxr 3y ago

Without even touching how every other thing you said is wrong (esp. about it being accurate), how is "algorithm" more descriptive than "artificial intelligence"?

Dalewyn 3y ago
1. "AI" isn't intelligence. 2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/algorithm https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/algorithm >: a procedure for solving a mathematical problem (as of finding the greatest common divisor) in a finite number of steps that frequently involves repetition of an operation >broadly : a step-by-step procedure for solving a problem or accomplishing some end
- cxr 3y ago
  > "AI" isn't intelligence Right. AI is artificial intelligence. But that's irrelevant; you're answering a question I (explicitly) didn't ask, and not the question I did ask. How is "algorithm" a more descriptive term (your words) than "artificial intelligence"? > 2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/algorithm https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/algorithm Do you have a point here? Whatever you think it is, you're not making it—you're making my case. Social media companies' "algorithms" aren't algorithms.
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    >AI is artificial intelligence. AI is artificial intelligence, "AI" is artificial but it's not intelligence. ChatGPT, Gemini, Stable Diffusion, LLAMA, et al. are not AI, they are "AI". >Do you have a point here? ... Social media companies' "algorithms" aren't algorithms. Social media run on servers, servers run software, software is quite literally "a procedure for solving a mathematical problem in a finite number of steps that frequently involves repetition of an operation" and "a step-by-step procedure for solving a problem or accomplishing some end" Please come back when you at least have a basic understanding of how computers work.
    - cxr 2y ago
      Nice try, but no. Everything that runs on a server is not ipso facto an algorithm. It's a word that has a specific meaning, which you would (I'd hope, at least) be able to grasp if you weren't ignoring half the words in the definition you already quoted (and the specific meanings attached to those words, too). > AI is artificial intelligence, "AI" is artificial but it's not intelligence. And artificial tears aren't tears. Likewise with artificial vanilla, artificial plants, etc. Which is beside the point—because you have yet again attempted to provide a (crummy) response to the question I didn't ask and avoided answering the one I actually did ask. Please come back when you can demonstrate that you can carry on a conversation without this type of rhetorically dishonest, empty, pigeon-shitting-on-the-chessboard condescending bluster. (And maybe take a course on the theory of computation and the fundamentals of computer science in the meantime.)
      - Dalewyn 2y ago
        You proposed we stop using the word "algorithm", I argued to the contrary by pointing out it accurately describes what is usually portrayed by it.
        cxr 2y ago
        > You proposed we stop using the word "algorithm", I argued to the contrary K, thanks for the review. It was neither necessary, informative, nor otherwise a response to anything that I asked. You can make as many bare assertions about being right about the accuracy question as you want. No amount of them is going to transmute these sorts of replies into one that can't be plainly identified as avoiding the question I did ask, but you can keep trying if you want.
        Dalewyn 2y ago
        You asked: >Let's stop with the abuse of the word "algorithm". I pointed out that it's not an abuse. If that is not the question you asked, then sincerely: What the fuck did you ask?

by cxr 3y ago

Without even touching how every other thing you said is wrong (esp. about it being accurate), how is "algorithm" more descriptive than "artificial intelligence"?

Dalewyn 3y ago

1. "AI" isn't intelligence. 2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/algorithm https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/algorithm >: a procedure for solving a mathematical problem (as of finding the greatest common divisor) in a finite number of steps that frequently involves repetition of an operation >broadly : a step-by-step procedure for solving a problem or accomplishing some end

cxr 3y ago
> "AI" isn't intelligence Right. AI is artificial intelligence. But that's irrelevant; you're answering a question I (explicitly) didn't ask, and not the question I did ask. How is "algorithm" a more descriptive term (your words) than "artificial intelligence"? > 2. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/algorithm https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/algorithm Do you have a point here? Whatever you think it is, you're not making it—you're making my case. Social media companies' "algorithms" aren't algorithms.
- Dalewyn 2y ago
  >AI is artificial intelligence. AI is artificial intelligence, "AI" is artificial but it's not intelligence. ChatGPT, Gemini, Stable Diffusion, LLAMA, et al. are not AI, they are "AI". >Do you have a point here? ... Social media companies' "algorithms" aren't algorithms. Social media run on servers, servers run software, software is quite literally "a procedure for solving a mathematical problem in a finite number of steps that frequently involves repetition of an operation" and "a step-by-step procedure for solving a problem or accomplishing some end" Please come back when you at least have a basic understanding of how computers work.
  - cxr 2y ago
    Nice try, but no. Everything that runs on a server is not ipso facto an algorithm. It's a word that has a specific meaning, which you would (I'd hope, at least) be able to grasp if you weren't ignoring half the words in the definition you already quoted (and the specific meanings attached to those words, too). > AI is artificial intelligence, "AI" is artificial but it's not intelligence. And artificial tears aren't tears. Likewise with artificial vanilla, artificial plants, etc. Which is beside the point—because you have yet again attempted to provide a (crummy) response to the question I didn't ask and avoided answering the one I actually did ask. Please come back when you can demonstrate that you can carry on a conversation without this type of rhetorically dishonest, empty, pigeon-shitting-on-the-chessboard condescending bluster. (And maybe take a course on the theory of computation and the fundamentals of computer science in the meantime.)
    - Dalewyn 2y ago
      You proposed we stop using the word "algorithm", I argued to the contrary by pointing out it accurately describes what is usually portrayed by it.
      - cxr 2y ago
        > You proposed we stop using the word "algorithm", I argued to the contrary K, thanks for the review. It was neither necessary, informative, nor otherwise a response to anything that I asked. You can make as many bare assertions about being right about the accuracy question as you want. No amount of them is going to transmute these sorts of replies into one that can't be plainly identified as avoiding the question I did ask, but you can keep trying if you want.
        Dalewyn 2y ago
        You asked: >Let's stop with the abuse of the word "algorithm". I pointed out that it's not an abuse. If that is not the question you asked, then sincerely: What the fuck did you ask?