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https://www.businessinsider.com/employers-engineering-students-most-want-to-work-for-universum-2022-8#2-tesla-2181-of-engineering-students-chose-the-electric-car-company-as-one-of-their-top-ideal-employers-19 https://www.businessinsider.com/employers-engineering-studen...

jjav 3y ago
I mentioned experienced people, not students. Once you have experience and maturity you also have more obligations (family) so taking a job where entire teams can be wiped out whenever a late-night twitter rage goes bad, becomes ever less interesting.
- nebula8804 3y ago
  Well they have a history of repeating the entire history of mistakes that the rest of the auto industry has gone through over the last several decades. For example, GM went through the same attempts to automating everything in the factory that Tesla did in 2018/19....but in the 1970s/80s GM ended up ripping out all their robots and you would see a sea of them in the parking lot flying over the factories. At the same time the thinking of experienced engineers has calcified in a way that prevents the attempt of risky behavior that could lead to long term success. For example, the mega castings were something proposed to automakers since the 90s but no one wanted to take the risk to try it because of politics. You risk shutting down your entire tool and die factory and dealing with the fall out of that and if it didn't work out you were hosed. The result of plowing through the top engineering students every year is that they repeat these mistakes on speed run but they also seem to extract nuggets of gold that the "experienced" engineers don't see or have been beaten down into not seeing. Since there seems to be an infinite amount of top students that still want to work at his companies I don't know if he will have trouble with personnel any time soon.

jjav 3y ago

I mentioned experienced people, not students. Once you have experience and maturity you also have more obligations (family) so taking a job where entire teams can be wiped out whenever a late-night twitter rage goes bad, becomes ever less interesting.

nebula8804 3y ago
Well they have a history of repeating the entire history of mistakes that the rest of the auto industry has gone through over the last several decades. For example, GM went through the same attempts to automating everything in the factory that Tesla did in 2018/19....but in the 1970s/80s GM ended up ripping out all their robots and you would see a sea of them in the parking lot flying over the factories. At the same time the thinking of experienced engineers has calcified in a way that prevents the attempt of risky behavior that could lead to long term success. For example, the mega castings were something proposed to automakers since the 90s but no one wanted to take the risk to try it because of politics. You risk shutting down your entire tool and die factory and dealing with the fall out of that and if it didn't work out you were hosed. The result of plowing through the top engineering students every year is that they repeat these mistakes on speed run but they also seem to extract nuggets of gold that the "experienced" engineers don't see or have been beaten down into not seeing. Since there seems to be an infinite amount of top students that still want to work at his companies I don't know if he will have trouble with personnel any time soon.